Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by TSTOM » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 pm

Scot -

Somehow, lost in the unnecessary banter above, is my rather simple issue with the B end ONLY part of the beautiful and classic DL&W paint scheme applied to this freight unit.

In the past, I've totally enjoyed and appreciated your meticulous historical research and updates therein. By chance do you have in your considerable files a pic showing the A-end application being duplicated on the B-end with the maroon swoops/wrap bans ? As I stated above, the only non E or F engines I know of that were so painted in this scheme by the DL&W were the FM models.

On a related note, I'm sure some ERIE fans would have perhaps questioned had NS chosen to apply wings on the B end of that unit in lieu of the cigar band, you agree ?

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by scottychaos » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 pm

TSTOM wrote:Scot -

Somehow, lost in the unnecessary banter above, is my rather simple issue with the B end ONLY part of the beautiful and classic DL&W paint scheme applied to this freight unit.

In the past, I've totally enjoyed and appreciated your meticulous historical research and updates therein. By chance do you have in your considerable files a pic showing the A-end application being duplicated on the B-end with the maroon swoops/wrap bans ? As I stated above, the only non E or F engines I know of that were so painted in this scheme by the DL&W were the FM models.

On a related note, I'm sure some ERIE fans would have perhaps questioned had NS chosen to apply wings on the B end of that unit in lieu of the cigar band, you agree ?
I do see your point..but..the point you are missing is: no one really cares! ;)
Some of the heritage units have had legit styling issues..the LV unit being a prime example..
I think everyone agrees it was much improved after going into the paint shop a second time..

but this issue is, IMO, different..
No, there were no DL&W or EL cab units that had the A-end duplicated on the B-end..but that's really irrelevant to this discussion..
(and also, F and E units were never in the habit of running backwards..)
The heritage unit is truly bi-directional, so that alone is worthy enough reason, IMO, to duplicate the same design on both ends..
and..the FM trainmasters had it on both ends!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 33&nseq=62

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 44&nseq=73

so there you go..problem solved..
It is in fact prototypically accurate then to have the same design on both ends..the DL&W Trainmasters are the precedent.

and again, ironically, the scheme works much better on NS 1074 than it ever did on the trainmasters! ;)
the trainmasters suffered from the same issue the Algoma Central units had: that the scheme doesn't fit well on non-cab units or non-widecabs..
so..im still not seeing what your concern is exactly..there is no problem here.
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by MEC407 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:02 pm

She'll look good even when she's running long hood forward:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=401922
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by scottychaos » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:32 pm

All Twenty heritage units gathered together! :)

http://www.flyerguide.net/photo/402338
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by scottychaos » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:35 pm

At first I thought they were in a fairly random order..but studying the photo a bit reveals they are in fact very carefully placed! On the far left is N&W, the "N" in NS..on the far right is Southern,(Norfolk(&W)+Southern=Norfolk Southern) N&W absorbed NKP, Virginian, Wabash and IT..Then you have PRR+NYC=PC..then Erie and DL&W belong together, then you have the anthracite roads: DL&W, CNJ, Reading and LV, then I thought Conrail was out of place, but its actually not..because PRR+NYC+PC+Erie+DL&W+CNJ+RDG+LV+MGA=Conrail, then after Conrail you have "original NS", Interstate, CofG and S&A, all of which were merged into (or controlled by) Southern..then SOU on the far right, completing the "S" in NS..and on the turntable bridge, all of them together add up to NS..very cool! :)
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by MEC407 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:49 pm

Fantastic!
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by tahawus84 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:56 pm

awesome shot !!!!!!

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by scottychaos » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:09 pm

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by charlie6017 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:23 am

Love those photos........thanks Scot!
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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by Missyg24 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:43 am

Are there any heritage units coming to williamsport, pa area or run alot on pburgh line in altoona area? Im looking to get a shot of a heritage unit, ill be down in altoona on the 13th of oct as a bday trip for myself.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by Schuylkill Valley » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:14 pm

The Reading Unit is sitting down at West Falls in Philadelphia on train NS 506 .
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q59 ... G_4074.jpg

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by charlie6017 » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:54 pm

That's one of my favorite Heritage Units...........thanks for posting!

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by Schuylkill Valley » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:28 am

Updates on the RDG unit.
Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:25 AM
Just tied down at Deepwater, NJ. with heritage unit pointed north at head. DuPont security on high alert and was agitated that jitney driver for coming up the wrong side to retrieve the crew.

Tried to claim DuPont owns the land under the tracks. Do you have a map? I asked. That backed him off. But one of the crew members told me he took info of jitney driver even though her vehicle was clearly marked.

This was reported through a yahoo group.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

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Re: Norfolk Southern Heritage Units.

Post by Schuylkill Valley » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:59 pm

Here's more updates on the RDG unit , from an yahoo group I belong too.
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11 arriving in Deepwater with the Reading unit at the ready for when the coal train is empty and ready to depart

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q59 ... G_4154.jpg

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q59 ... G_4158.jpg

conversely i also caught 11 on the rebound after a run around, end change of the EOT and brake test

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q59 ... G_4176.jpg

the 1067 basking in the high sun

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q59 ... G_4166.jpg

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