NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

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NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by Bobby S » Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:40 am

Saw this in a yard just North of Newark Liberty Airport. NS engine was the lead with a CSX engine right behind it. Most of the freight cars had CSX markings on them. I thought the two are seperate railroads. Or is this an issue of trackage rights?
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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by PARailWiz » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:21 am

The major railroads all have locomotive lease agreements between themselves and their competition to make overall more efficient use of their locomotive fleets. It is not uncommon to see CSX or even farther afield locomotives such as BNSF pulling an NS train or vice versa.
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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by amtrakhogger » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:57 pm

Bobby S wrote:Saw this in a yard just North of Newark Liberty Airport. NS engine was the lead with a CSX engine right behind it. Most of the freight cars had CSX markings on them. I thought the two are separate railroads. Or is this an issue of trackage rights?
You most likely saw a Conrail Shared Assets train. Conrail (CSAO) is basically a terminal railroad in North Jersey (including Philly and Detroit) that is jointly owned by CSX and NS. Since CR does not own any locomotives, engines from CSX and NS are assigned for use on CR's trains.
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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by Bobby S » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:14 pm

Thanks for the clear up! Now another quick Q! Who owns the still painted "Conrail Blue" locos? CSX and NS?? Or just one?
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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by scottychaos » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:28 pm

Bobby S wrote:Thanks for the clear up! Now another quick Q! Who owns the still painted "Conrail Blue" locos? CSX and NS?? Or just one?
both..
NS and CSX both got a ton of Conrail locos in the 1999 split..
most have been repainted by now, but both railroads still have some units running around in Conrail blue, 10 years later.

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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by chuchubob » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:26 am

Conrail Shared Assets in Camden frequently pairs NS and CSX locomotives.
Conrail Quality C40-8W 8443 has been on NS trains 38G and 39G recently.
There are usually both CSX and NS engines at Pavonia Enginehouse, and Conrail Blue is commonly seen there.

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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by Tadman » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:29 pm

Black road numbers mean NS ownership, yellow means CSX. It's an easy rule of thumb but not infallible.
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Re: NS and a CSX engines leading freight together?

Post by TREnecNYP » Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:20 pm

I see this quite often on the Reading bridge over the delaware.

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