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  • Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.
Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

Moderator: MEC407

Which of these locomotives would best meet Guilford's needs?

VMV GP8 (rebuilt EMD GP7)
3
10%
VMV GP10 (rebuilt EMD GP10)
No votes
0%
EMD GP15-1
2
7%
EMD GP38
6
20%
EMD F40PH (could be rebuilt for freight duty)
4
13%
EMD SD38-2
3
10%
EMD SD40T-2
7
23%
EMD SD50
5
17%

 #14837  by Engineer Spike
 
You are right that 4 axle units are harder to find. I have noticed that Guilford tries to find a large fleet of units to buy cheap. This was so on the ex CR, PC, NYC GP40, and the ex NS GP35 fleets. After aquiring the units, the best ones are put into service. The worst ones are scrapped for parts, and the so-so units are rebuilt as time permits.

 #15882  by camster202
 
MEC407 said that in 10-15 years maybe Santa Fe will start retiring/selling their GP60's...

In talking with some other railfans, I've noticed that GP60's are mostly built for high speed service, not slow trains. Mostly, GRS's speed limits on their lines are 30-40, but with crappy track and all, we're looking for a unit that can go anywhere and do anything--that includes slow pulls. I believe these units can do that, but most likely will have problems.

Take the VRS GP60's...I've heard they spend lots of time sidelined because of wheel slip issues from lugging trains over the mountain up in Vermont. Would a GP60 even be a remotely good way to go?

 #15886  by MEC407
 
You're correct: the GP60 did have wheelslip problems. The problem wasn't so much a GP60 design flaw, but rather, the fact that 3800 HP is just too much for a 4-axle freight locomotive. The GE B39 and B40 both had the exact same problem.

Theoretically it might be possible to make adjustments to a GP60, either mechanically or electronically, to bring it down to 3000 HP. Then you'd basically have a GP40-3 with a 710 engine.