The Guilford Wreck Train... Photos & Questions

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The Guilford Wreck Train... Photos & Questions

Post by NellsChoo » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:34 am

Hi all

I finally put the shots I took of the Guilford wreck train on my site. I can't remember, though, if I heard they have more than one. But I think this particular one if based in Maine. Anyone know for sure? I am also interested in the history of each section. Some look like old passenger/baggage equipment.

Please go to the link below and take a peek at the train:
http://www.newenglanddepot.homestead.com/journal04.html

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Post by NellsChoo » Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:57 pm

That NErail pic may be part of Guilford's business train. I have seen it once at E Deerfield yard. It was too dark to take a good photo... :(
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Post by sery2831 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:43 am

BM304-MWT is interesting. A baggage car with vestibules? Or a coach with baggage doors? Quite obviously modified for work service..
It is an old diner converted into a tool car for the wreck crane.
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B&M stuff

Post by H.F.Malone » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:59 pm

The heavyweight bagg was originally a Pullman car--- B&M converted a bunch into full baggs after WW2. There is one of these at Green Mtn. Rwy in N. Walpole; it was a solarium-obs car made into a bagg, and one end of the car shows the plated-over obs windows.

The ex-troop sleeper was just that, not a troop kitchen car (they had fewer, smaller windows).

The streamlined "diner" was ex-CSX; it was acquired by Illinois Rwy Museum about 11 years ago from CSX, for the express purpose of trading it to Guilford--- IRM got the old wooden B&M diner-lounge off the Deerfield wreck train, right out from under the noses of the New England museums, in a secret-until-it-was-over deal......

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Post by ProRail » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:33 am

The 250 ton Brownhoist Crane is one of 2 the railroad has.
One was kept in East Deerfield the other in Waterville.
The one in East Deerfield is currently at Waterville for wheel-work and body-work.

The diner is just that - a diner for the wreck crew. It has 2 stoves, a larger refrigerator, dish washer, sinks and dining car seating.

The ex-Troop Sleeper is used as a wash-station and some tool storage. It has conventional wash basin sinks and an emergency eye-wash sink.

The heavyweight baggage car contains heavy-duty chains and large slings used for tying around a car that is off the tracks.
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Post by wolfmom69 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:31 pm

Caught the wreck train about 2 1/2 weeks ago at the east end of the Waterville Yard,parked on a siding. Had a "big hook" in the consist,and two flats with dozers on them(side boom equiped dozers).

Think train had had handled a derailment on the Bucksport Branch. Didn't want to "tresspass" going past the public way(Allen St.),so I could not get car numbers. By the looks of some photos posted on some New England websites,there is helluva lot of tresspassing going on!

Anyone know,"for certain" if Guilford,and maybe other railroads,still use the dining cars on wreck trains to prepare/serve meals,and if crews still sleep in the cars? Thanks in advance for any info.

Bud :-)

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Dining Car on B&M Wreck Train

Post by ProRail » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:08 pm

To Answer Wolfman's question...

Yes - at a derailment where the work is going to take in excess of 24 hours to clean up, the dining car in the GRS Wreck Train is used to feed all of the personnel. Food is prepared on the spot by one of the crew who is designated as the cook.

There are no sleeping facilities on the train, and work usually does not stop until the main line affected is at least cleared or a shoo-fly is built. After that crews can be brought to a hotel for rest.
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Post by NellsChoo » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:16 am

I have photos of that work train from a few weeks back as well. I have not yet posted them due to my new computer giving me a headache...
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Post by NellsChoo » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:11 am

I have posted the new work train on NErail. Search under JONELLE DEFELICE and let me know what those funny 1/2 boxcar-flatcar and 1/2 caboose-flatcar things are, PLEASE!! They are neat, but what are they??
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Post by ProRail » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:30 am

The "half size" boxcar contains large chains, steel wire slings and tools to support the 2 side-winder/dozer cranes. The dozer cranes work smaller derailments and they also are used to shove debris clear too.

The caboose on the flatcar also carries similar tools for the cranes, including replacement hooks and other parts.
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Re: The Guilford Wreck Train... Photos & Questions

Post by MEC407 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:22 am

Video by NorfKhazad of the wreck train on its way to Royalston with a Dash 8-40B in the lead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbRMWm0-dFc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Guilford Wreck Train... Photos & Questions

Post by backroadrails » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:10 pm

Video by Maine Railfan of the wreck train, which was headed to clean up the derailment at Enfield, ME:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp0KiRljtg0

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Re: The Guilford Wreck Train... Photos & Questions

Post by Dick H » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:27 pm

I believe this is the Waterville wreck train with the 200 ton wrecker #3365.
The East Deerfield wreck train has the 250 ton wrecker #3366 and also
carries the two sidewinder bulldozers. In addition to the #3365, they were
probably able to use one or two highway cranes to do the work and did not'
need the dozers from ED.

Here is a 2 minute video from 2012 with a closeup view of the ED wreck train
from Signal Hill Productions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZD6211NjcQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The Guilford Wreck Train... Photos & Questions

Post by gokeefe » Mon May 27, 2019 10:52 pm

As I recall from.previous research one of the cars, I believe it was the diner, had been an L&N "partition" (segregated) coach.
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