"Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by roberttosh » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:50 am

Are they expected to be a large rail user? Sometimes these niche products don’t necessarily lend themselves to rail.

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by gokeefe » Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:28 pm

Their plants elsewhere appear to have similar demand for rail as other saw/board mills.
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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by CN9634 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:22 pm

It's all going by truck-- no rail potential. That isn't to say there will never be any, but I know who these guys are and no plan to ship by rail. They like having access to old mill infrastructure however

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by roberttosh » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:02 pm

Speaking of new customers, how much rail business is ND Paper doing up in Old Town?

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by newpylong » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:34 am

Long term likely will depend on how much the technology is accepted here in the US. As I understand it, it's still bigger in Europe and people are just getting into it here. If things progress, then they may have a need for more inbound lumber volume, and outbound timber loads. I would agree, for a burgeoning business, hard to see rail to start.

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by gokeefe » Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:03 am

Whatever is going through Winthrop tonight must have a K5LA on it ... It sounded so much like the Downeaster that I actually thought it was the real thing and started wondering for a moment which train it was. Then of course I recalled that this was impossible ...
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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by Rockingham Racer » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:58 am

Some CSX engines have K5LA horns. Do they ever get up that far north?

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by MEC407 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:37 am

Yes, they have to go through Winthrop to get to Waterville. (By "CSX engines" I assume you mean the ex-CSX engines now owned by PAR)
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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by Rockingham Racer » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:55 pm

No, actually I meant CSX engines that CSX owns, but the ones you mention certainly could be candidates for a K5LA, I imagine.

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by MEC407 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:13 pm

Absolutely. Several of PAR's ex-CSX C40s and B40s have K5LA horns. That's almost certainly what gokeefe heard. :)
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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by 690 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:52 am

Several of the GP40s have acquired K5LAs too, 321, 327, 345 and 353 off the top of my head.

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by roberttosh » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:33 pm

Is Pan Am running between Old town and Keag these days? I thought I heard something about the line being shut down while they make 286K upgrades?

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by KSmitty » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:45 pm

It's mothballed and afaik none of the work that was reportedly to be done had been done.

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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by gokeefe » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:14 pm

Wow. Interesting how quickly things have been shifting around ...
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Re: "Up North" Gawking (District 1 sightings)

Post by KSmitty » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:55 pm

For the record, they aren't even running the occasional extra up to Perma Treat this time. They have GMTX 205 sub-leased from EMRY and taxi a crew (NM-1?) up to switch. They send everything up CMQ and Irving drops the spent tie cars and chocolate chip gons at Keag.

They did run down and back up once I believe as 205 made an appearance at NMJ. Might have had to do with CM&Q not accepting some of the beat to hell ex-D&H 2 bay MofW hoppers. Or maybe they needed to 92 day the 205, not sure if it went to Waterville or not...

All may be a moot point: if CM&Q is sold and Irving is the buyer it's hard to believe daily trains will ever run to 'Keag by way of Old Town again.

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