Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Jim in S.E. Pa. » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:28 pm

OK folks, Looking at the area from 'Birds eye' sky views. The grade crossing is labeled as 66th St. Which dead ends at a trucking yard of some type on the other side of the tracks from the point of view of the camera in link 1.. Therefore the truck had to cross those tracks to get to that yard, and was hit on the way back out. The trucking Co with the cameras had no business with this truck, they're camera was focused on the gate entrance of they're Co, and the grade crossing happens to be in the line of site across Lake Dr just adjacent to they're gate.

Heres a link to the sky view:

http://binged.it/145NkIn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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That yard appears to be trash bin facility. And it was a trash carrier that was struck.. I don't know the laws in MD regarding these types of trucks or drivers or how well they are policed. But I can say that around here ( the Pa/ NJ boarder) areas, These drivers are payed by the load and have little, or no regard for safety. If you aint doin 85 in the left lane.....Get out of the way or your getten pushed out of the way. That said, It wouldn't surprise me to find out this guy thought he could beat the train to the x-ing.



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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Backshophoss » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:20 pm

The crossing looks like it was redone not that long ago,the question remains if it's private or public ????
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Jim in S.E. Pa. » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:53 pm

The web site will not allow the whole address to be copied and pasted, but if you look up the tax parcel map for 1200 66th St, Rosedale, Md. at :
http://myneighborhood.baltimorecountymd.gov/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You will see that none of the tax parcel boundary lines of any nearby properties encompass that grade crossing.. So it would seem its, State, County, or Twp, property, and RR ROW. Which would make me think "Public Crossing". I cant find any legit legal maps of that area so as to determine if 66th st is a "Paper Street" at the crossing..

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Jim in S.E. Pa. » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:27 pm

I just stumbled upon this news media clip. They state that this is a private crossing but dont say who is responsible for it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMwJjjHf864" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Freddy » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:25 pm

If it's a private xing then the property owner would be responsible.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by sd80mac » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:42 am

That's BS! driver KNEW there is crossing there... it's not his first trip down this road or private driveway... he knew that it's hard to see around the vegs which should get him to crawling around the corner prior to crossing.

and someone mentioned here that he could hear horn blowings for numberous of crossing before train finally show up there.

I BET that this driver was RACING against train and trying to beat train at the crossing it clearly shows that he was zipping around the corner way faster than HE SHOULD BE! His boss should see that his driver is driving reckless with his truck and fire him on the spot, even if he's lying in pain inside the wrecked truck.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Jim in S.E. Pa. » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:55 pm

SD80Mac,

From what I gather in that news clip above, the guy driving the truck is the boss... The reporter states " The driver uses the crossing to get to ""HIS BUSINESS""
, along with siting some infractions re: his driving......

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Mike Doughney » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:43 pm

New Sun article as of an hour ago... somewhat of a role reversal from the usual post grade crossing accident lawsuit.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... 4865.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Rosedale train derailment leads to suit against truck driver
CSX alleges that John Jacob Alban failed to slow his truck and look for trains

By Ian Duncan, The Baltimore Sun
6:31 p.m. EDT, June 19, 2013

The rail transport company CSX is suing the truck driver involved in last month's Rosedale train crash, arguing that he did not take proper care when crossing the railroad tracks.

The suit, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Baltimore, names John Jacob Alban Jr. and his company, Alban Waste LLC, as defendants. CSX's lawyers allege that Alban failed to slow his truck down and "exercise due care" as he crossed the tracks. The suit also cites federal safety violations by the company concerning drug and alcohol testing, driver qualification files and vehicle inspection reports.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by MBTA1052 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:00 pm

By any chance does anyone know the engines that were destroyed in this derailment? Because it looks like a SD40-2 and maybe Dash9. Also, if they did get derail what would have caused them to derail if for one they were on a straight track along with being in Energency.
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Freddy » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:22 am

MBTA1052 wrote:By any chance does anyone know the engines that were destroyed in this derailment? Because it looks like a SD40-2 and maybe Dash9. Also, if they did get derail what would have caused them to derail if for one they were on a straight track along with being in Energency.
Hitting the truck could have caused the engines front end to ride up onto the vehicle itself, that could have done it, plus the slack action, braking and a host of other things, I would imagine.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Jim in S.E. Pa. » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:29 pm

The engines were not destroyed or derailed as is clearly stated in the above posts. .....Please read the thread before asking questions that have already been answered.
The engines were, Lead unit -ES40DC, and an SD40-2

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Mike Doughney » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:44 pm

More this afternoon.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/ ... erailment/
TOWSON, Md. — Police say driver error caused an explosive derailment of a CSX freight train near Baltimore last month.

Baltimore County police say the train hit a garbage truck at a crossing.

They issued seven traffic citations to 50-year-old John J. Alban Jr. He was driving the truck in the May 28 crash in Rosedale.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by JimBoylan » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:57 am

Sometimes, there are agreements between the railroad and others for a private crossing that may say who is responsible for what, especially if the crossing is newer than the railroad.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Jim in S.E. Pa. » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:01 pm

Along with the 7 traffic citations, this dude should be charged with Reckless Endangerment, and Risking a Catastrophe. He cant just simply pay fines and walk away from those two charges.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by MBTA1052 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:55 pm

Thanks for the response, I was watching the video feeds and I see the train collide with the truck and I believe the car after the SD40-2 might have been a flatbed which derailed, but could the engines also cause the massive cloud of smoke that the fire department couldn't put out or did they some how avoid the wreck? Also, noting that the crew of Q409 was in good shape after the hit?
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