Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

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Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by Ocala Mike » Tue May 28, 2013 1:59 pm

Clips of today's incident:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-195" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ive-video/

Question: When did we stop using the term "freight train?" Is it a "cargo train?" Really?
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD

Post by RailMike » Tue May 28, 2013 2:54 pm

It seems to have taken place near the intersection of 66th and E Biddle. Google Maps shows a lone grade crossing nearby with only crossbucks. I wonder if that's where the truck was hit?

There appears be a paved-over industrial spur crossing on Biddle, with RxR still painted on the pavement in at least one direction.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD

Post by glennk419 » Tue May 28, 2013 3:51 pm

Ocala Mike wrote:Clips of today's incident:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-195" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ive-video/

Question: When did we stop using the term "freight train?" Is it a "cargo train?" Really?
Must be some sort of Associated Press thing as I heard the term used on a couple different news outlets. 6ABC in Philly is also referring to it as a cargo train and showing AP as the source. Makes you wonder if they are freight cars or wagons that derailed. ;) Chopper shots are showing an overturned container flatbed adjacent to the derailed and burning cars, doesn't look good for the truck.
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD

Post by rdgrailfan » Tue May 28, 2013 4:21 pm

7506 Lake Drive, Rosedale, Maryland, United States using Google shows a unguarded crossing

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD

Post by dt_rt40 » Tue May 28, 2013 5:00 pm

This picture: http://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_ ... _08f05.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems to show the adjacent track literally blown to the side by the explosion. I didn't know that could happen.
You would think a main line these days would always have active crossing guards, even if the road is on the entrance to an industrial park.

EDIT: Ok, now I see there appears to be a facility absolutely chock full of dump trucks beyond the train tracks. Talk about a disaster waiting to happen!

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Q409 Catastrophic Explosion - Baltimore

Post by Tadman » Tue May 28, 2013 7:32 pm

http://jalopnik.com/explosion-rocks-bal ... -510172261" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jalopnik.com is reporting that a CSX local went into emergency before hitting a stopped truck that appeared to have been fouling the tracks. The truck exploded.
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD

Post by mmi16 » Tue May 28, 2013 8:48 pm

dt_rt40 wrote:This picture: http://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_ ... _08f05.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems to show the adjacent track literally blown to the side by the explosion. I didn't know that could happen.
You would think a main line these days would always have active crossing guards, even if the road is on the entrance to an industrial park.

EDIT: Ok, now I see there appears to be a facility absolutely chock full of dump trucks beyond the train tracks. Talk about a disaster waiting to happen!
The crossing is a Private Crossing locally known as 'Dump Road' Truck that was struck was a loaded Roll on/off trash truck. Driver was taken to Shock/Trauma unit of UofMD hospital in serious condition. Train involved was a regular Selkirk to Waycross road train.
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by waldwickrailfan » Tue May 28, 2013 10:29 pm

Train was Q409, stuff that went aflame: Propane, Plastic Pellets and Ammonium Nitrate
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by JimBoylan » Wed May 29, 2013 1:25 pm

waldwickrailfan wrote:stuff that went aflame: Propane, Plastic Pellets and Ammonium Nitrate
Thanks for the straight scoop, CSX is feeding the Associated Press a coverup:
CSX Transportation Co. spokesman Gary Sease said Wednesday that sodium chlorate in a car that derailed Tuesday in Rosedale exploded. He says the explosion ignited another chemical, terephthlaic acid, from a second derailed car.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by ExCon90 » Wed May 29, 2013 2:49 pm

Ocala Mike wrote:Clips of today's incident:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-195" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ive-video/

Question: When did we stop using the term "freight train?" Is it a "cargo train?" Really?
FWIW, I emailed the Philadelphia Inquirer yesterday and raised that question, as well as kvetching about "set of tracks" for "track," and got the following in return:

"On the first, I tried to see if someone somewhere had decided that in the 2010s we should call these 'cargo trains' but as near as I can tell, it has no use outside of news media, which leads me to suspect its ultimate source is the police. I agree that we should not use it, and have written it into our spellcheck program so that if it comes across the phrase 'cargo train' it will indicate it should be changed to 'freight train.' Of course, not everyone uses spellcheck on every story, but we do what we can. Not much I can do about 'a set of tracks.' That's just dumb. Wish more people cared about trains."

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by mmi16 » Wed May 29, 2013 8:37 pm

ExCon90 wrote:
Ocala Mike wrote:Clips of today's incident:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-201_162-195" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... ive-video/

Question: When did we stop using the term "freight train?" Is it a "cargo train?" Really?
FWIW, I emailed the Philadelphia Inquirer yesterday and raised that question, as well as kvetching about "set of tracks" for "track," and got the following in return:

"On the first, I tried to see if someone somewhere had decided that in the 2010s we should call these 'cargo trains' but as near as I can tell, it has no use outside of news media, which leads me to suspect its ultimate source is the police. I agree that we should not use it, and have written it into our spellcheck program so that if it comes across the phrase 'cargo train' it will indicate it should be changed to 'freight train.' Of course, not everyone uses spellcheck on every story, but we do what we can. Not much I can do about 'a set of tracks.' That's just dumb. Wish more people cared about trains."

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by RDGAndrew » Thu May 30, 2013 11:16 am

While we're at it, we should also lobby for the end of "tanker cars". A tanker is an oceangoing vessel.
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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by ExCon90 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:35 pm

I also mentioned tanker cars in my email, but their response was silent on that. Probably hopeless to complain about diner cars and sleeper cars.

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by FatNoah » Fri May 31, 2013 11:45 am

Footage of the crash itself: http://news.msn.com/us/who-put-lipstick ... 70&ap=True" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Derailment in Baltimore County, MD (5/28/2013)

Post by motor » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:42 am

RDGAndrew wrote:While we're at it, we should also lobby for the end of "tanker cars". A tanker is an oceangoing vessel.
I've always called them tank cars. Then again I'm almost 52 years old. :)

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