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Discussion related to the operations and equipment of Consolidated Rail Corp. (Conrail) from 1976 to its present operations as Conrail Shared Assets. Official web site can be found here: CONRAIL.COM.

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 #50493  by Justin B
 
Why did Conrail buy Dash-8s so late into the production run? ATSF ordered I think the first Dash-9s in 1993, and CR waited until late 1994 to place an order for C40-8Ws. Was this because GE had Dash-8 components laying around and wanted to get rid of them for cheap? Or was it CR sticking to proven technology instead of trying something new (IE the Flexicoil vs. HTC debacle of the 1980's)?

 #53749  by SRS125
 
My guess would be that they were on the move to replace locomotives. In the early 90's Conrail still had a large handfull of GP-8's, GP-9's, GP-10's, GP-20M's, GP-30's, and GP-35's along with a couple U-Boats U23B & C's, U23B & C's, U33B & C 's and U28B & C's. still in there fleets all were retired by 1994-1995. Many of the Geep's sat in dead lines from 1985-1990 and went back into active service around 1990 as for the reason for the sudden reactivation of these units I have no idea maybe a large increase in traffic called for them?

At least 6 U33C's remained on the Conrail Rostor well befor the CSX-NS Merger 3 were keeped in Buffalo and 3 in Albany as Heavy Yard Pullers. I do beleve that all were scraped befor the merger. This explanes the missing gap 6600-6605 number gap this was the U33C fleet that was keeped off the rostor but stayed well hidden in the yards. Rember the C30-7A fleet started at 6606.

 #55164  by craltoona
 
Wait a minute. Are you sure you're correct? Conrail began recieving C40-8W locomotives in 1990. These first locomotives did not have the "quality" paint scheme applied to them. (It hadn't been introduced yet.) After buying the first 100, they then went on to buy more than 100 more and these locomotives were delivered in 1991-1992 w/ the qulaity paint sheme. 1993 was the year when Conrail began looking at EMD's SD60M and then after that, the modified SD60I.

 #55186  by Justin B
 
CR 6230 through 6285 were delivered in June of 1994. They were delivered in the "Quality" paint scheme.

 #55355  by SRS125
 
Conrail reseved GE C40-8's in 1990. The Wide cabs came in 1991 with a 2ed oder in 1994.

 #55394  by Noel Weaver
 
SRS125 wrote:Conrail reseved GE C40-8's in 1990. The Wide cabs came in 1991 with a 2ed oder in 1994.
NEGATIVE!!!! I had numerous wide cabs between Selkirk and Buffalo
during 1990. I know what a wide cab is and my timebook does not lie.
Noel Weaver

 #55576  by SRS125
 
ahh one year ahead on the wide cab Dash 8's no big deal it was a close enough guess.

 #56242  by craltoona
 
Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant that Conrail didn't purchase any C40-8Ws until 1994. I think you meant: Why did they purchase more C40-8Ws when the C44-9W was catching on quickly? I'm not sure. They were probably satisfied with the C40-8Ws and maybe they got a deal. Also, you aren't referring to the 50 LMS (lease maintanence services) locomotives that Conrail eventually bought from GE and repainted, are you?

 #56417  by Justin B
 
Also, you aren't referring to the 50 LMS (lease maintanence services) locomotives that Conrail eventually bought from GE and repainted, are you?
No... I am talking about the 35 that CR bought new. A rather small order of soon a to be outdated model.

 #56497  by SRS125
 
I thouth the LMS locos were shared between Conrail and CN? or is this a diffrent group of LMS locos with in the rostor?

 #61818  by thebigc
 
SRS125 wrote:At least 6 U33C's remained on the Conrail Rostor well befor the CSX-NS Merger 3 were keeped in Buffalo and 3 in Albany as Heavy Yard Pullers. I do beleve that all were scraped befor the merger. This explanes the missing gap 6600-6605 number gap this was the U33C fleet that was keeped off the rostor but stayed well hidden in the yards. Rember the C30-7A fleet started at 6606.
Are you thinking of C-30-7s? The U-33-C fleet was long gone by 1999.

And the C-30-7As were 6550-6599, I believe.

 #61833  by SRS125
 
I think it was the first 6 number slots were filled with U33C's then it went to C30-7's. ie exsample 6600-6605 were U33C's 6606-threw what ever were C30-7's. It would be a thought that maybe these old units keeped there old numbers while the C30 fleet was adjusted.

etc

 #61951  by Noel Weaver
 
Conrail engines 6600 - 6609 were C-30-7's period.
The only six axle U series engines still in operation when I returned to
Conrail were the U-23c's that were in operation in various yards, mostly
Selkirk but also Enola and maybe one or two others. These engines were
eventually replaced by C-30-7a's which were made surplus off the road
mostly from the B. & A. by deliveries of new power in the early 1990's.
Noel Weaver