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  • Discussion relating to the Canadian National, past and present. Also includes discussion of Illinois Central and Grand Trunk Western and other subsidiary roads (including Bessemer & Lake Erie and the Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range Railway). Official site: WWW.CN.CA
Discussion relating to the Canadian National, past and present. Also includes discussion of Illinois Central and Grand Trunk Western and other subsidiary roads (including Bessemer & Lake Erie and the Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range Railway). Official site: WWW.CN.CA

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 #363514  by oleanfuzz
 
I think that CN should do what UP has done with heritage units... It might be a public relations boost that they desparately need. I can think of a few paint schemes they should use..

1) 1950's Green and Gold
2) IC brown and red passenger http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=132440 as from the "City of New Orleans"
3) NAR http://www.cnrphotos.com/gallery/main.p ... emId=10902
4) CV/GTW/DWP blue and orange
5) WC maroon and Gold (with the lightning stripe used on the F45's)
6) BCR two tone green

Are there any others that would look good on a sd70m-2 or an es44dc? I would include the Zebra stripes but it is too close to the current scheme.

Mike

 #364221  by U-Haul
 
Canadien National seems to be the Canadien version of Union Pacific by "swallowng" many railroads that did not need "swallowng." From what I understand many DMIR, WC, IC, BCR, (I think I forgot a few) are ------ ---. The best heritage units were the WC SD45s, the BCR Caterpillar ALCos, but these units are now pages in history. There still are a fair amount of classic DMIR and IC units, but they are being retired or repainted into oblivion.
This yellow stripe business only further agitates former employees.
There are some more friction points an insider would know, but I am not an insider.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=171897
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=176106
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=154575
If a heritage program was engaged I hope they would follow NS's lead instead of UP's lead. When painting a heritage unit keep your reporting marks off.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=156633 UP's Heritage Unit
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=601881

 #364427  by lock4244
 
Heritage units do not increase shareholder value, and that is what's driving CN's management. It will likely never happen under current management.

FWIW, my CN heritage unit would be an SD40-2W in fresh zebra stripes. And that won't happed either :(

 #364444  by lock4244
 
BTW, while those roads may not have needed swallowing, they were needed by CN (for various reasons). WC formed a VERY important link for CN between the Twin Ports and Chicagoland... and it was needed wether or not CN had bought the IC. DM&IR was, as most know, bought for a short piece of mainline CN (DW&P) used. Frankly I'm shocked CN hasn't off-loaded the remaining part of the DMIR and BLE for that matter.

The IC, well, they say CN bought them for their management. Sigh...

BC Rail... bought that to keep everyone else from getting it.

CN does do what UP does... ask any WP fan of the rapid motive power changes to their road after that takeover. But UP is still faster to retire units. And don't forget, CN is also junking entire classes of units within it's own original roster. SD40's all gone, GP40's all gone, GP40-2L(W)'s going, GP9RM's are being sold, GMD1's going, SW1200RS gone. They're not just picking on the roads they've bought.

 #366096  by Dieter
 
I don't think the American at the head of the table these days would go for it either.

Don't forget that CN cast off a large part of it's network to raise the money to expand in different directions. I'm still surprised that CP didn't beat them to the punch.

D/