What hath BNSF wrought?! (New Logo/Paint Scheme)

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Tadman
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Post by Tadman » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:29 pm

Some comments on previous comments :

Regarding green to black swap - they should have unloaded that orange rather than the green, the orange fades and looks like hell.

Regarding CSX: I like the paint there, especially dark future. I was always a big Pere Marquette fan, and it's a continuation of the blue/yellow thing they started with the E7's in 1947 and some yard goats.

Regarding NS black: It's wierd some don't like it, as people love to buy black sports cars because they look sexy, etc... I think my dad has had four black cars in 20 years, and repeated no other colors twice.

Regarding the new BNSF in general - anything is better than this crap. I'd really like to see Big Sky come back - nobody remembers it and it doesn't really stand for one road, because it saw such limited use when it came out.

Thanks for a great discussion everyone - it's been enjoyable reading this.
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Avro Arrow

Post by Avro Arrow » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:29 pm

With the exception of (literally) one or two units I've seen the orange isn't fading that bad.

TerryC

Post by TerryC » Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:36 am

Burlington Northern Santa Fe has a variant on the Heritage 3 paint scheme.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=98360
The BNSF was hard to see at first so I thought it was one of these.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=59454
Here is the original Heritage 3 for comparison.
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=96902
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Redundancy remidied...

Post by Komachi » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Okay, had another redundant thread started about the paint scheme, and, as I am for every voice being heard, here are the comments about the new logo/paint scheme (call it what you will) that were made.


MR77100 Said:

"So this is going to be called the Heritage 3 scheme? I will put my 2 cents on it: It's VERY PLAIN! The debut paint scheme was more impressive than this! >:o("

Then, Amtrak Fan added:

"Well Said
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Then I locked the redundant thread.


Although, I need to ask MR77100, which scheme are you refferring to? The one we are all familiar with (orange & green with "BNSF" on the sides and the "cigar band" logo on the nose), or another one? Just currious.

AmtrakFan

Post by AmtrakFan » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:16 am

I wish BNSF would go back the old Cream and Green.

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Post by MR77100 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:10 pm

For H3, I am referring to this new hideous plain scheme with BNSF speed lettering. I would not be surprised if this is a cost-cutting measure. It's easier to slap 4 letters and a slash on a locomotive than it is to put a logo on their with stripes wrapped around the front of the loco.

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Paint, paint, paint...

Post by Komachi » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:52 pm

I was currious as to what you meant by the "debut" paint scheme.

Avro Arrow

Post by Avro Arrow » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:29 pm

MR77100 wrote:For H3, I am referring to this new hideous plain scheme with BNSF speed lettering. I would not be surprised if this is a cost-cutting measure. It's easier to slap 4 letters and a slash on a locomotive than it is to put a logo on their with stripes wrapped around the front of the loco.
Based on record profits and the that they would have done it cheaper the first time around, I don't think that's the basis for the change.

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Post by MR77100 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:53 pm

For "debut" paint scheme, I am referring to the first-ever unit painted for BNSF; SD70MAC #9647:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/bnsf/bnsf9647ars.jpg

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"Builder" was best!

Post by Komachi » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:12 pm

MR77100,

You know, I thought those units looked sharp, although I liked the second one (the NP Empire Builder-esque scheme) the best. Just seems to fit the locomotives quite well, be they a GP10r(m... u?) or a AC4400CW/SD70MAC.

But I'm not a member of the PR Department (or whichever oversight committe is in charge of paint), so...

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Post by MR77100 » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:10 pm

The Empire Builder scheme was nice; but what exactly was it called and how many units received it? Is BNSF seriously going to go through with this H3 scheme?

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Post by Joe » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:02 pm

Well, BNSF is getting SOME things with the new logo on it. Saw this (almost) entire train of new BNSF well goes going west the other day.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=122251
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=122252

Of course there were only two 5-packs in the whole train that had the new logo. The rest had the circle and cross:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=122250
Joe

raildog

Post by raildog » Sat May 14, 2005 11:23 am

Here are some of a BNSF Diesel Tank we rebuilt and painted with the new logo. (note:the font is wrong! We had to pull those off and go with another, but you get the idea)

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espee

Post by espee » Sat May 14, 2005 5:22 pm

I don't how well this will go over but for my nickels worth and I know a lot won't agree but here goes; I think BN should have kept its original colors. As they bought out other roads, those roads ceased to exist. BN wasn't necessarily coming up with a new railroad. For example, the UP retained their original colors no matter what road they took over. But I admit, the Heritage 2 scheme is awesome!

raildog

Post by raildog » Sat May 14, 2005 6:26 pm

as a contract shop, and in the loop on things of this nature, the words i heard, EVERYTHING IN THE FLEET WILL HAVE THE NEW LOGO, IF YOU HAVE TO PUT ON A SIGN BOARD, DO IT! how long has it been since you saw a sign board on a new/re paint car? I know one of the engineers, and his has come up with a logo for side post cars that will not require a sign board.

And I was told to refer to the BNSF as BNSF, not Burlington Northern Santa Fe.

Add to this those damn reflective stickers and a mechanical guy will lose his ever loving mind!

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