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 #1518133  by riffian
 
Notice the fence and automatic gates surrounding the structure today. These are fairly new additions (10 years or so) due to a declining neighborhood. Sure am glad Mr. Norman called attention to this structure.
 #1520216  by Tadman
 
bratkinson wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:32 pm I had forgotten about the South Shore station at South Bend.

BUT....

When that was built, Penn Central did NOT stop there! They stopped at the downtown South Bend station. Amtrak stopped downtown too, for quite some time.

So, my thinking the new Union Station in Milwaukee, which opened in 1968 as I recall, would be the last one built before Amtrak and Amtrak has
called there since day one.
Can we verify this? Wiki says Amtrak moved in 1971 to Bendix station, and I seem to agree with that. I'm not aware that Amtrak ever stopped at Union Station.

I'm actually a bit surprised that PC didn't move to Bendix in 1970, there were few trains going through SBUS and it's huge. Not worth the money to maintain for them, although I'm glad it survived.
 #1520263  by Station Aficionado
 
ExCon90 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:59 pm Did GTW service through SBUS last right up until Amtrak, or did it cease earlier? I can't find it right quick.
Interesting question. The GAS website refers to SBUS as being abandoned in 1970, but not sure I believe that. I have 1971 GTW TT at home, but that’s not much use at the moment.
 #1520278  by Tadman
 
GTW was part of Canadian National even back then - their passenger trains were CN clones. Given that, CN was pretty active in passenger and I think there were quite a few trains to Toronto and Detroit. Probably more than NYC/PC after the RPO slaughter and Empire Service conversion.
 #1520315  by Station Aficionado
 
The 2/1/71 GTW TT still lists the ticket agent as located at SBUS. This combined with the facts that 1) GTW couldn’t have served Bendix (west of the PC/GTW split) and 2) no evidence of GTW serving another station in that era, I’m confident in saying that GTW served SBUS to the end.

The 3/71 OG says that PC still had its ticket agent at Union Station. Thus, it appears that the station retained both tenants to the end.

And, per the TT, GTW still ran 3x/day service until A-Day. PC also ran 3x/day on the exNYC.
 #1520322  by Backshophoss
 
Croton-Harmon was an intercity station as well as a commuter station,rebuilt due to the M-1's and Hi level platforms were needed
Not sure what happened to the old station bldg but the new bldg was small brick bldg,no waiting room and 1 ticket window
The agent handled both commuter tickets and Amtrak tickets thru that single window, was not a easy place to work
There were benches on the bridge to the platforms, lexan widow "glass" that clouded up over time. :(
 #1520347  by Tadman
 
Station Aficionado wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:59 pm The 2/1/71 GTW TT still lists the ticket agent as located at SBUS. This combined with the facts that 1) GTW couldn’t have served Bendix (west of the PC/GTW split) and 2) no evidence of GTW serving another station in that era, I’m confident in saying that GTW served SBUS to the end.

The 3/71 OG says that PC still had its ticket agent at Union Station. Thus, it appears that the station retained both tenants to the end.

And, per the TT, GTW still ran 3x/day service until A-Day. PC also ran 3x/day on the exNYC.
Thanks for the research, as a native South Bend guy it's always interesting. I figured PC was down to 1/day by then but not surprised the GTW was still at 3. I'm curious how many trains Niles saw to Detroit, which is basically the same metro area on a different line.

SB is still lucky to have 2 pair of long distance trains plus 4 pair of Michigan trains at Niles, plus 5 pair of South Shore to Chicago (and 2 stubs to MC, but those must be empty at midnight...)
 #1520427  by TomNelligan
 
Tadman wrote:I'm curious how many trains Niles saw to Detroit, which is basically the same metro area on a different line.
Immediately prior to Amtrak, Penn Central operated three trains each way between Chicago and Detroit, all stopping at Niles. Amtrak kept two of them after 5/1/71.