Acela II (Avelia Liberty): Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by 8th Notch » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:05 pm

The cabs on the Avelia trainsets are suppose to have a jumper seat in the cabs for any 2nd person that is occupying the head end.

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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by Acela150 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:19 pm

Updated information is available in the link below by clicking the "Amtrak Procurement and Program Update".

According to the link we should be seeing a brand new Acela set in the next 6 months.

http://www.highspeed-rail.org/Pages/201 ... ting-.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by frequentflyer » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:10 pm

http://www.highspeed-rail.org/Documents ... Update.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by Gilbert B Norman » Mon May 13, 2019 11:39 am

Today's Wall Street Journal has a comprehensive and objective article (some within the passenger train advocacy community hold they know not the definition of objectivity) regarding the status of the Avella project. The article simply refers to as Acela:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/next-gener ... 1557662401" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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The future of American high-speed rail is sitting in a building older than the Battle of Gettysburg: a cavernous factory that holds the first shells of a $2 billion fleet of Amtrak Acela trains due to begin running from Washington, D.C., to Boston two years from now.

Even as Congress moves toward renewed debates over the future of both Amtrak and high-speed rail, the first of 28 new Acela train sets are starting to take shape here. They are the first new generation of passenger trains on the railroad since the Acela’s debut in 2000.

For Amtrak, that means a chance to relaunch a service that has been both a commercial success and a procurement headache—and still the nearest approximation in the U.S. to the high-speed trains that whisk travelers among major cities in Europe and Asia..
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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Tue May 14, 2019 11:19 pm

Hornell shops really has been a part of history, over 150 years and going from Erie Railroad to EL, Conrail, MK, Amerail and then Alstom.
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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by Backshophoss » Mon May 20, 2019 1:28 am

Believe Hornell was the home to "Super Steel" and their EMD partnership on the DE/DM 30's.
This was also the rebuild shop for the Empire service turbos,under the "Super Steel" banner.

Amtrak seems to retaining the Acela name,The original sets are now Acela I's ,the first generation.
The Liberty sets could be refereed to as Acela II's,as the next generation cars for this service.
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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by R36 Combine Coach » Mon May 20, 2019 5:11 pm

Backshophoss wrote:Believe Hornell was the home to "Super Steel" and their EMD partnership on the DE/DM 30's. This was also the rebuild shop for the Empire service turbos,under the "Super Steel" banner.
Super Steel was in Scotia.
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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by STrRedWolf » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:55 pm

Saw the report on the local news. Looks like they hid some of the coach designs in the report as well. Do we have the floor plans on these cars?
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Re: Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by Matt Johnson » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:14 pm

Another sneak peak, courtesy of Railway Age.

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Re: Acela Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by bostontrainguy » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:26 pm

Nice to see that we finally get a one-piece unobstructed window on an Amtrak rail car.

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Re: Acela Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by Fan Railer » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:08 pm

Anyone else notice how the horn is set up? Gone is the 5-chime K horn; replaced with two single K bells on either side of the windshield. These things are going to sound weird.

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Re: Acela Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by MattW » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:06 pm

I just hope that once these are in-service, Amtrak realizes just how bad a decision fixed-seats are and upgrade them with electrically reversible seats like in Japan.

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Re: Acela Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by Nasadowsk » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:42 am

Interestingly, they're going with body mounted traction motors, it looks like. IIRC, the Acelas have truck mounted ones.

I'm wondering how much of this design is Amtrak getting the Acela's many flaws fixed, and how much was Alstom telling them "this is what you get"?

Have any actual solid technical specs been released on the design, yet?

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Re: Acela Avelia Liberty: Design, Production, Delivery, Acceptance

Post by east point » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:05 pm

We understand that truck mounted traction motors are harder on the track due to the unsprung weight on wheels ?

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