Amfleet Replacement Discussion.

[Matt Johnson]

The Brightline coaches do have steps, if not full traps.

http://trn.trains.com/~/media/images/ra ... 000&mh=800" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Tadman]

Whoa, unsprung freight trucks. Going to be a bumpy ride!

[Nasadowsk]

The Brightline coaches do have steps, if not full traps.

http://trn.trains.com/~/media/images/ra ... 000&mh=800" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks like they did a ctrl-c from some ÖBB railcar and then a ctrl-v onto the Brightline plans...

Unless the FEC went with 550mm platforms?

[Gilbert B Norman]

Here is a photo of a closed trap on an OBB Rail Jet car taken at St. Anton am Arlberg last August.

(sure wish this site could support a photo > 500kb. I do not have a Flickr account)

[Gilbert B Norman]

Never win a Grand Prize in a TRAINS photo contest, but here is a still closer view of the trap.

[BandA]

It's probably cheaper to order car with traps.

[D.Carleton]

The Siemens Viaggio North American coach as outfitted for Brightline Florida will not have steps nor traps. These cars are not designed for low level platform boarding. A "gap filler" at every door will extend to meet the high level platform as spec'd by the customer.

[David Benton]

Do you know what the Brightline platform height is, and how it compares to the NEC?

[F-line to Dudley via Park]

Same...48 inches.

CAHSR is the one that's deviating from the NEC standard by doing 50 inches...although that's not exactly going to cause incompatibilities with the San Joaquin if it has to have its low-boarding bi-levels switched out for generic East Coast stock in order to share platforms.

[Matt Johnson]

The Siemens Viaggio North American coach as outfitted for Brightline Florida will not have steps nor traps. These cars are not designed for low level platform boarding. A "gap filler" at every door will extend to meet the high level platform as spec'd by the customer.

They do have two steps, as shown in that photo I linked from the Sacramento Siemens plant. Here's another view:

http://gobrightline.com/wp-content/uplo ... r_team.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[D.Carleton]

As a clarification, the Viaggio North American vehicle is designed as a go anywhere, fit anywhere, work anywhere passenger railcar that can be utilized anywhere on the North American rail network serving high or low level platforms. Brightline Florida chose to have high-level platform loading only with no traps nor steps (although steps are built into the basic design and will be there on every car regardless of customer).

[njtmnrrbuff]

If Amtrak orders any MUs, my suggestion to them as well as partnering states would be to have the MUs run on the Keystones-electric ones of course. For the Springfield Line, run them on the shuttles, obviously under diesel power.

[rcthompson04]

If Amtrak orders any MUs, my suggestion to them as well as partnering states would be to have the MUs run on the Keystones-electric ones of course. For the Springfield Line, run them on the shuttles, obviously under diesel power.

You got to wonder if they are thinking of buying some Bombers from the New Jersey Transit (SEPTA option) EMU order.

I have wondered if it would be better if PennDOT/SEPTA bought more ACS-64s and some coaches with bathrooms and had SEPTA run the Keystones.

[Jeff Smith]

http://www.highspeed-rail.org/Documents ... 281%29.pdf

Pertinent slides are 5-7. Please find appropriate thread for other slides.

http://www.highspeed-rail.org/Documents ... Update.pdf

Interesting info in there, too, slides 16-17, although they pertain to the Amfleet I Budd.

[Matt Johnson]

Surprised to see 'em being sold already!

http://railfan.com/excursion-operator-b ... leet-cars/