S-4 CV 8081 is she as odd as she seems (body details)

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crij

S-4 CV 8081 is she as odd as she seems (body details)

Post by crij »

Hello all,

After seeing an amount of photos of ALCo S-4s surface, I have noticed something odd about the ex CV 8081 we have. She was built September 1955, bn: 81401.

Can anyone tell me how many other units have these external items, besides her sister, CV 8080;

3 hood doors with filter panels instead of all doors with louvers
Exhaust stack is a straight oval, not reduced to round
Full grating over fan instead of roof walk size grating

You can see these items in her old K&L Feeds paint.
http://www.cteastrrmuseum.org/AlcoS4.htm

Might be easier to see in her current repaint:
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?20041 ... 218681.jpg

Or here in 1984:
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?20040 ... 031364.jpg

Thanks,

Rich Cizik
MoW Foreman
Ct Eastern RR Museum
Willimantic, Ct 06226
www.cteastrrmuseum.org

crij

Post by crij »

Come on ALCo Experts,

Has anyone seen other S-4s with these features, or were they some odd request by the CV?

Thanks,

Rich Cizik
MoW Foreman
Ct Eastern RR Museum
Willimantic, Ct 06226
www.cteastrmuseum.org

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Post by Luther Brefo »

Is it possible that this was rebuilt?

About the stack, the LA&L's 72 (an S2) has that same stack. It may have been an option or the railroads may have made the modification.

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Post by Alcoman »

I think that the carbody filter is an upgrade mod and/or late model S4 feature. I am still to locate some written material on this.

539 powered did not come from the factory with stacks. It was added by the railroad via a homemade construction or an Alco option with factory supplied parts.

crij

Post by crij »

Both of these mods were directly from Schenectady.

This is known for certain, since I have a photo of her 8081 and her sister 8080. The photo was taken on the day of arrival in St Albans Vt, before they were even uncoupled from the train. There are boxcars bracketing the pair, and duct tape sealing the Exhaust Stack, Horn Mouth, and Radiator Fan Grid/Grill.

Also I have talked with the person that took the photo, and stated that they came direct from ALCo, in that train, and he was in the mechanical department at the time..

Regards,

Rich C.

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