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Al Holleuffer


Post by Al Holleuffer » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:56 pm

A friend of mine asked me if American Crane was a susidiary of ALCo. He works for the CN (former ICRR) in Louisianna and was looking over one being used for bridge work. On the counterwieght there is a number cast in it, 619383. Does anyone know if this is a construction number or serial number?

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American Crane

Post by H.F.Malone » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:44 pm

American Hoist & Derrick Co., St. Paul, Minn.--- not any relation to ALCO. They built smaller (15-80 ton) locomotive cranes for railroad and industrial use; I don't think they built any heavy railroad wreck cranes like the 125-250 ton Industrial-Brownhoists. American also was big in the construction cranes, both crawler and rubber-tired. The railroad stuff was not the majority of their business.

The number is most likely a pattern number or part number for the counterweight casting.


Post by *istDS » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:48 pm

The lattice-boom crane previously used for excavating, light to medium lifting, etc. has gone out of style in favor of specialized excavators and hydraulic cranes. Such august names as P&H,BLH-Lima, American, Marion,
Koehring, etc. have abandoned this business segment.

Beleive that the only extant non-hydraulic crane mfr is Manitowoc.

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