Partial LV Alco C628 still exists!

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Post by mxdata » Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:45 pm

The former Pielet Brothers property was very completely cleaned out a couple years ago, mostly paved over, and is now occupied by a large truck terminal.

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I just felt a great disturbance in the force...

Post by Komachi » Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:44 pm

(Master Komachi is training a young railfan in the ways of railfanning, when he is stricken with a sharp pain, he sits down in a portable canvas chair)

Padwan: Master Komachi, what is it?

Komachi: I just felt a great disturbance in the railfan community. As if millions of ALCohaulics just cried out in anguish and hopes of a restored C-628 were suddenly quelched.

Padwan: Oh. Would you like an aspirine?

Komachi: Yes, two preferably.

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Post by mxdata » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:31 am

Sorry to be the messenger responsible for this vast disturbance in the ALCO force field, but I knew this piece of property very well, from working right across the tracks, and it looks to me like the truck terminal takes up virtually every bit of the former scrapyard, and it is all paved area now. A few of the previous owners buildings are still there and have been adapted as storage and offices.

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Post by Ol' Loco Guy » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:23 pm

Let us all bow our head in silence...

Someone ought to go down to Valle de Mexico and see if they can locate an ex-NdeM unit.

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Post by N. Todd » Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:39 pm

There is one left down there, the former NDM 8611. Somebody shot some pics for me recently.

Ol' Loco Guy

Post by Ol' Loco Guy » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:14 pm

Let the gang see the photo.

That'd be big news around here !!!

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Post by scottychaos » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:46 pm

very sad about the final demise of LV636..
I guess it fell into the catagory of "if it seems to good to be true, then..."

There are 3 known surviving C628's in the world,
all are in museums.
2 in Mexico, and 1 in Australia:
one is ex D&H.

http://www.thedieselshop.us/PRSVDalcoCC.HTML
http://www.celorio.com/mfy/roster.htm

http://alcoworld.railfan.net/phs.htm
http://locopage.railpage.org.au/private/hi_20.html

as recently as 1999 there were EIGHT C628's spotted in Mexico!
http://alcoworld.railfan.net/mexico.htm
are all these units now scrapped?
(except for the two that are confirmed at the Yucatan museum?)

Scot

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Post by scottychaos » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:50 pm

check out the last photo on this page! :P

http://www.celorio.com/mfy/restore.htm

Scot

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Post by Ol' Loco Guy » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:06 pm

If one cares to spend hours of time googling the words "NdeM C-628" (and any variations thereof), one can confirm the fact that all the native C-628's were indeed scrapped in late 2002 in the Mexico City area.

So, the ex D&H 610 is indeed...the last one standing.

In fact, all the Alcos are gone-save for the corpse of M-630 8611-also said to be found in the Mexico City area.

A very late casualty was the (pretty darn cherry) Ferromex RS-11 501, which was unceremoniously chopped into pieces in a Guadalajara scrapyard. No sign of the engine or other large components.

The prevailing explanation for the wholesale disappearance of the Alcos is this: title to these locomotives was never passed to the various corporate entities that privatized the national system. When enough new power was on hand, the Alcos (along with many old GE's and EMDs) were put up for bid-with NREC and various "partners" being the winner.

Most of these locomotives were salvaged for parts while In Mexico, with the hulks being rendered for scrap locally.

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Post by N. Todd » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:53 pm

The photos of the M-630 were shot in February, after the RS-11 was cut up. Hopefully it still exists. URL: http://alco.0catch.com/FNM8611.html
as recently as 1999 there were EIGHT C628's spotted in Mexico!
I don't know how you or anyone considers 1999 as being 'recent.' 2002, which was an absolutly horrible year for both the Mex-Alcos and I- was three years ago. February was quite enough. I lived through hell and the forums crashed... Recalling past events from then seems like forever.

I take it those two Alcos owned by FXE and National Portland Cement have become whatever the Mexican equivilant of razor blades are?

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Post by crook » Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:29 pm

Gentlemen, while it is very sad that the LV body is forever lost, remember, there are still large alcos out there. And when they get retired, we must jump on the opportunity to preserve them when it comes.

Diligence men, diligence. (and save your pennies)

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Post by scottychaos » Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:24 pm

N. Todd wrote:I don't know how you or anyone considers 1999 as being 'recent.'
I dont know how you or anyone considers 1999 to *not* be recent..
so were even.
Image

Scot

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