railohio wrote:So we're talking about the Oregon Electric? A former interurban? Why wouldn't it be well-suited for passenger service? Yes, some reinvestment will be needed but we're talking about a railroad that was built for speed. It's basically straight and flat, or at least lacking in major grades. There's nothing there that Talgo sets or DMUs couldn't handle.
Again - this is not the real case. Look at the OE.
Yes, from Quinaby to Wilsonville the line is straight. Problem: There's NOTHING on that line except a couple of grain elevators. Meanwhile you've got Woodburn, population 25,000, several miles off the OE (but the UP runs right through downtown) and Canby, another 20,000 folks and completely off the OE. All you need is a station platform and you could serve those two cities today for less than $5 million.
Yes, from the south end of Albany to the north end of Eugene is relatively straight. Problem: Nothing there! (Granted, there's nothing on the UP except for the bustling villages of Tangent, Shedd and Halsey, but you could double-track the UP and get far more benefit for both freight and passenger service).
Now look at Salem:
On Broadway St. NE between River and Madison you'll see the OE makes a sharp turn to the west. In the Interurban days, the "passenger" line continued south on Broadway while freight trains turned towards the river. Obviously when the passenger trains stopped running in the mid-1930s, the line was removed. This is a 10 MPH curve, followed by another 10 MPH curve a few blocks west. Assuming this route were to still be used, you'd be eliminating quite a few homes on the east end and a major business on the west end.
Front Street NE, between Norway and Division: Street trackage. 10 MPH. Track is also in pretty bad shape with a few recent derailments. A number of businesses on the west side of the street have no other access and have frequent truck traffic in/out that require access to this street.
Downtown Salem: No good location for a train station, unless you locate the train station to the north or to the south of, but not within, the downtown district. Compared with the existing Amtrak station which is an easy walk to the Capitol Building, the entire Capitol Mall, Willamette University and the Salem Hospital campus.
South of Salem to Buena Vista Road: At the bottom of a bluff, along the Willamette River - mudslides are a problem (just like on the UP between Salem and Canby). There are at least a half-dozen underpasses that require replacement. Few if any suitable locations for sidings.
Albany: Runs on street trackage along Water Avenue from the east end of the city through downtown. Dip underneath the P&W Toledo District bridge is a permanent slow order. Long trestle on west end of downtown requires replacement. No good location for a new depot unless trains stop in the middle of the street or the street is removed, or you build the station on a bike path. (Granted, the OE is closer to downtown Albany than the Amtrak station but not by much; the Amtrak station is along 99E and has a transit mall and much more parking availability. And it was just rehabilitated a couple years ago.)
The only real reason to upgrade the OE is to give a huge bailout to the P&W. On most of the routes there are only one or two freights a day operated on the line - if this were the NEC, it would be different; but for just a handful of passenger trains? It would be an awfully expensive railroad line for the taxpayers of Oregon to have to pay to maintain for comparatively little ridership; when a fruitful discussion with the UP could truly create a win-win for the taxpayers, the riders, UP and P&W by building a fast railroad down the valley akin to what BNSF has north of Vancouver. BNSF operates some 40-50 trains a day north of Vancouver and UP runs about 10 south of Portland; Amtrak runs twice as many trains north of Portland as they do south. UP stands to win by upgrading their railroad for the small cost of accommodating a few passenger trains. It's just that Oregon has no clue how to talk to the guys in Omaha; while Washington's investment in the BNSF has reaped huge rewards for both the railroad and the state and has turned WSDOT and BNSF into partners extending into BNSF's operation of the Sounder commuter rail service.