Detroit Terminal Rail Road?

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Detroit Terminal Rail Road?

Post by 452 Card » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:05 am

The photo attached was received as an email about old gas stations. In the background there is a bridge over the highway with a sign that clearly reads "Terminal Rail Road", but the first word is partially obscured by a sign. I think its "Detroit", but when I enlarge the photo it pixillates too much to tell. Anybody know for sure?
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Re: Detroit Terminal Rail Road?

Post by ExCon90 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:59 pm

I'm not that familiar with Detroit, but there was a Detroit Terminal Railroad. Maybe someone closer knows whether it was independent, or jointly owned by line-haul railroads serving Detroit.

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Re: Detroit Terminal Rail Road?

Post by Detroit » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:44 am

The site of that photo is Michigan Avenue and Oakman Street in Dearborn, facing east. The closer overpass (there are two) has a highway-department plaque saying that it was rebuilt in 1945 or so. Two of my five Dearborn uncles owned a store two blocks west of that intersection.

I actually walked some ten years ago along the entire route of that long-ago abandoned stretch of the DTR from the CP-LOU intersection of the Michigan Line (roughly Southern Street in Dearborn--that street in Detroit is named John Kronk--and Wyoming, just east of the Dearborn Ford River Rouge plant, which now builds F-150s) north to Ford Road--three blocks north of Michigan Avenue.

Ford used that line a lot before 1927, before it moved out of its Highland Park plant to the Rouge after it stopped making the Model Ts there. My grandfather worked at the Rouge since the 1920s. In 1929, there were 129,000 workers at the Rouge plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Terminal_Railroad" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

These photos were taken at CP-LOU during 1979 and earlier.
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BTW, my house is one of only a dozen on a dead-end street in Livernois Yard. Livernois Yard at one time was a 36-track hump classification yard that controlled Junction Yard (Michigan Line), which itself is just a few hundred feet from here. Now, Junction Yard is mostly ancient history...
http://www.michiganrailroads.com/RRHX/S ... ernoisYard(MC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).htm

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Re: Detroit Terminal Rail Road?

Post by 452 Card » Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:21 am

So my guess was correct! Thanks, Detroit. I normally haunt the LIRR forum and I am totally unfamiliar with things DTR. Now I can sleep! :-D
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Re: Detroit Terminal Rail Road?

Post by Detroit » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:54 pm

Google Books has a copy of the Detroiter magazine from September 1912 that provides some history of Detroit rail yards and railroads--including the DTR...
http://books.google.com/books?id=NgY9AA ... &q&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's more recent information about the DTR. Therein are two modern-day aerials of the DTR overpass at Michigan Avenue--the site of the ancient photo.
http://detroitterminal.blogspot.com/201 ... track.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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