Traffic on HorseShoe Curve

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carajul
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Traffic on HorseShoe Curve

Post by carajul »

I was reading that in the late 1970s there were still around 100 trains/day on HSC. Why has the # dropped to half that today? Did CR and NS reroute the traffic elsewhere?

mcgrath618
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Re: Traffic on HorseShoe Curve

Post by mcgrath618 »

A combo of a lot of things.
For starters, with PSR there will be less trains. Period.

Secondly (though this isn't as much of a contributor ), Amtrak only runs two trains (one each way) across the curve, while in the late 70s they had more.

johnpbarlow
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Re: Traffic on HorseShoe Curve

Post by johnpbarlow »

There are likely fewer coal trains running today around the Curve. Also, I'm guessing the steel industry in and around Pittsburgh/Youngstown, that received unit trains of imported iron ore from the Philadelphia ore dock, was more active than it is today. And there more auto assembly facilities served by Conrail (eg, Metuchen NJ, Newark DE) that have long been closed. Net: there used to be a lot more heavy manufacturing in the mid Atlantic states served by Conrail in the late '70s than exists today.

WashingtonPark
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Re: Traffic on HorseShoe Curve

Post by WashingtonPark »

mcgrath618 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:16 pm
A combo of a lot of things.
For starters, with PSR there will be less trains. Period.

I would think you've got it. In the 70s we'd see few trains over 100 cars. Now we see few less than 100.

njt/mnrrbuff
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Re: Traffic on HorseShoe Curve

Post by njt/mnrrbuff »

Even after the steel mills have shuttered their doors, there is still a lot of freight train traffic over the curve. I was there last June for maybe an hour during the middle of the day and there were many freights.

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