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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by David Hutchinson » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:34 pm

from what I can tell this is a huge bump..... rumors out there about additional new power to run to Suffern and back... they have definitely increased business from CR days.......

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:17 am

I haven't seen any cars for them on H70's recently. So if this is happening, it hasn't started at all yet.
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by chuxter26 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:42 pm

At this point they don't have the ability to run to Suffern......

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by David Hutchinson » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:10 am

I know that, but there is an unconfirmed rumor about them taking the freight business from NS.....

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by chuxter26 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:02 am

Let us know if the rumor gets confirmed....

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:23 pm

They already have all the Campbell Hall freight business...
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by AMK0123 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:16 pm

They do have all the freight business out of Campbell Hall and Hudson Secondary (Campbell Hall Cluster). They do operate on a small section of the tier to get onto the secondary. Don't see NS giving up all that traffic up to Campbell hall. Would be nice, and maybe more possible to see MNJ pick up the tier west of there. I believe NS only switches out a lumber company and MNJ's operation in Middletown. Would make sense for MNJ to tie both there operations together.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by pumpers » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:58 pm

I thought I when M&NJ first got some of that traffic from NS that kept a few big customers in the area. Is that still the case (or was it never true)?

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:11 am

There aren't really any big customers in that area. I believe they still bring a few cars a week to the other MNJ interchange in Middletown and maybe one other customer out there. The bigger customers are east of Suffern. And when I say bigger, I mean bigger than anything in Middletown.
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by pumpers » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:18 am

OK, so besides delivering cars to MNJ, it sounds like perhaps NS kept a few smaller customers in the Campbell Hall/Middletown area?

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:35 pm

Any business along the main stayed with NS. Only the branch lines went to East Penn
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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by chuxter26 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:04 pm

The NS H08 currently serves 2 customers at Red Onion and 2 on the Crawford Industrial plus the M&NJ interchange in Middletown.....

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by B&M 1227 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:55 am

NYS&W has been handling a fair amount of traffic off the M&NJ, the vast majority of it coming from Syracuse/Binghamton. To quote a higher up "I have no idea how we're gonna handle it if their business picks up like they're saying it will."
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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by ccutler » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:52 am

Well that's good to hear, both for M&NJ and NYSW. NYSW's NJ traffic looks like its fallen sharply over the last 5 years, hauling less trash and toxic dirt.

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Re: Middletown & New Jersey / East Penn

Post by SecaucusJunction » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:52 pm

NYSW interchange with East Penn is probably a handful of cars per week at best, so any traffic would be a significant increase. I think their interchange track is very small.
I think it may be possible that NJ Transit might not be the perfect, infallible organization that most people assume it is.

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