Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

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Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by Otto Vondrak » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:15 pm

This thread is for the discussion of the operations, equipment, and history of the Saratoga & North Creek Railway, operators of the former Delaware & Hudson Adirondack Branch, part of which was operated by the Upper Hudson River Railroad and by Canadian Pacific Railway. Any relevant news stories posted from outside sources require a link to the original article plus a brief "fair-use" quote.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by Adirondacker » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:32 pm

I see that the Ski Train information has been added. Without quoting prices it's cheaper to take the package prices that are being offered on the train.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by jakirk » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:41 pm

San Luis & Rio Grande (Iowa Pacific) 1394, a former Great Northern full dome, is sitting outside West Albany yard today. Does anybody have an idea about it's destination? If it is headed to Amtrak in Rensselaer, it's a rare move.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by The Man » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:53 pm

The Full dome is heading to Chicago for a inspection and then off to the west coast.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by griffs20soccer » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:28 pm

Here are a couple of articles on what is going on at the Saratoga & North Creek Railway.

I hope you enjoy them.

http://poststar.com/news/local/with-tra ... 963f4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.denpubs.com/news/2014/jan/29 ... l-wine-pr/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The Post Star article mentions, "Contract with Canadian Pacific Railway for trains to go from Warren County's line to the port of Albany." Does this mean trackage rights for SNC trains to access the port or CP handling the trains to the port?
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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by griffs20soccer » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:45 am

It looks like the second BL-2 is on its way according to this Train Orders.com.

Here is the discussion.

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/r ... ?2,3311216" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by traingeek8223 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:01 am

This has been confirmed to me by a SNC employee. Locomotive is in primer but is supposedly in operating condition.
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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by griffs20soccer » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:30 am

Matt thanks for the confirmation. It was good to finally meet you at your hobby store on Saturday. The items I purchased are already in use on my layout.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by Otto Vondrak » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:21 am

traingeek8223 wrote:This has been confirmed to me by a SNC employee. Locomotive is in primer but is supposedly in operating condition.
Surprised MEI didn't complete the paint? Must be other plans afoot.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by ScotCP356 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:00 pm

The BL-2 is on Q364.
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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by griffs20soccer » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:16 am

There are pictures of the unit on Gino's Railblog found here:

http://ginosrailblog.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It looks like the unit may need a little TLC.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by thebigham » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:49 am

The Trains magazine newsletter that is sent out on Monday had this:

Freight business coming to the Saratoga & North Creek

Does anyone have details?

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by pumpers » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:04 am

thebigham wrote:The Trains magazine newsletter that is sent out on Monday had this:

Freight business coming to the Saratoga & North Creek

Does anyone have details?
See griffs20soccer's post earlier on this page and the links it has. ALso relevant posts in the 2013 thread. In short, SNC want to haul the stone from tailings at the Tawahus (spelling?) mine at their far north end to sell it for construction stone. They have a few potential deals in the works, and have given rumors of 5000 cars per YEAR [EDIT: NOT PER WEEK] or more, starting in spring (I know, it is hard to believe). THey are negotiating with CP to take it from Saratoga to wherever - one possibility has it going to Albany to be transloaded to barge (maybe to go to Long Island)?? Most of this info is from announcements by the SNC general manager. I don't think there have been announcements of hard deals or signed contracts, however. We'll all believe it when the trains are actually rolling... JS
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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by charlie6017 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:27 am

ScotCP356 wrote:The BL-2 is on Q364.
I found this video of a CSX train with the BL-2 trailing on my youtube feed this morning, for those interested.

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Re: Saratoga & North Creek (S&NC) Discussion - 2014

Post by thebigham » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:26 pm

^Thanks! They were flying!

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