Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery?

Post by D.Carleton » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:47 pm

As per RailwayAge.com, Norfolk Southern is ordering four more PR43C's from Progress Rail. The story confirms the prime-movers are a Caterpillar C-175 rated at 3,600 horsepower and a Caterpillar C-18 rated at 700 horsepower. No word on what the cores will be. Also, no mention of EMD.

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by GWoodle » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:58 pm

Progress Rail has a facility near Mayfield KY. They seem to have a set of SD50 from the EMD lease fleet. They could be used as donors to make PR43C. I have also seen some PR30C on UP rebuilt from SD-40. Try a search on Youtube.
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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by Mr.S » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:29 am

I thought the PR30C 's were rebuilt from u.p.rr SD60's that had been retired?

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by v8interceptor » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:19 pm

IIRC, the PR30C's started life as SD40-2s. The SD60s you mention are being rebuilt as SD32ECOs with EMD 12-710 engines...

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by MEC407 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:35 pm

The latest incarnation(s) of the PR43C have several exterior changes, including a completely new cab design. Photos by Max Linder:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2337657

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2337656

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2337654
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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by Steve F45 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:00 pm

Is the red tank a fire suppression tank?

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by Mr.S » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:32 am

As for the red tank on these loco's I will assume that until I hear otherwise,or confirmed..

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by v8interceptor » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:36 pm

MEC407 wrote:The latest incarnation(s) of the PR43C have several exterior changes, including a completely new cab design. ...
Interesting, that cab looks similar to the one being applied to the SD60 rebuilds NS is doing at Juniata. Could be from the same supplier...

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by MEC407 » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:30 am

I think this cab is marginally better looking than the one NS is using. For one thing it doesn't have a sloped roof or that weird overhang over the windshield. Those two things make all the difference!

Here are some photos of the latest PR43C to be painted, including a photo of the builder's sticker -- which, interestingly, specifies 4000 HP rather than 4300:

http://mlinder81.rrpicturearchives.net/ ... id=2745158

http://mlinder81.rrpicturearchives.net/ ... id=2745159

http://mlinder81.rrpicturearchives.net/ ... id=2745160
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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by v8interceptor » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:12 pm

It is my understanding that the HP ratings for the PR43C(3600HP for the main engine,700HP for the smaller one) are Gross ratings. So for traction purposes 4,000HP seems about right..

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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by MEC407 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:00 am

Shouldn't they call it a PR40C if that's the case? All their other model names thus far have referred to traction horsepower.
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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by MEC407 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:37 pm

Unless anyone can tell me otherwise, it sure looks like the PR43C program was a failure. The demo unit #4000 is now up for sale. Price: "make an offer."

http://www.sterlingrail.com/classifieds ... p?id=16401" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Progress Rail/Caterpillar PR43C mystery? 3005hp for UP?

Post by mtuandrew » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:34 pm

Seems like Progress Rail has finally declared a winner in its T-IV freight locomotive horse race: the 12-1010.

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