New Hyde Park Biodiesel

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New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by rb » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:51 pm

Just passed this plant on a Huntington train. There were 4 tank cars parked on a siding adjacent to the main line, with an additional 2-4 cars pushed into the facility. I've never seen more than 2 cars there before. Can they unload from both of these tracks?

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by freightguy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:33 pm

Yes they can bascially have the 6 cars on spot now headings towards the old Chesler lumber.
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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by Teutobergerwald » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:15 am

Passed by there yesterday morning. Packed with black tankcars, possibly as many as 9 ? It was hard to tell. How often are they served, and is it incoming or outgoing biodiesel ?
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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by LINYARailfan » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:14 pm

[quote="Teutobergerwald"]Passed by there yesterday morning. Packed with black tankcars, possibly as many as 9 ? It was hard to tell. How often are they served, and is it incoming or outgoing biodiesel ?
Incoming biodiesel, Usually they are switched by the RS81 as needed; The RS80 will bring the tank cars with the cars for Marjam,Coastal Distribution and Island US Container and do Farmingdale and Wyandanch FIRST. When the RS81 leaves Coastal and they have the tankers, they will switch them on the way back to Fresh Pond usually after 2:00 sometimes even 3:00AM.

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by Teutobergerwald » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:27 pm

Ahh, so its usually a move conducted under cover of darkness....I'd like to catch that sometime in daylight.
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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by SlackControl » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:02 am

Several weeks ago, I noticed a crew cleaning up the tracks of brush, and looked like they were straightening the rail just east of the Biodiesel guy on that spur. Now, the track looks usable up to a makeshift bumper block down by those three box cars that have been there for decades. Was this extension to accommodate more Biodiesel tank cars? Are there any other plans for more work to be done there to open up more rail business?

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by RRJS3 » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:55 pm

Teutobergerwald wrote:Ahh, so its usually a move conducted under cover of darkness....I'd like to catch that sometime in daylight.
Not an easy place to switch during daylight hours, you have to hold the main on one of the busiest locations on the railroad. And then there's the crossing at New Hyde Park Road that is inevitably fouled in the process. Irritated drivers...maybe even a couple of Long Island's brightest going around the gates for a surprise meeting with a speeding MU set. All said, best to just do it at night.

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by jayrmli » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:37 pm

Probably an expansion of the biodiesel customer. His business will be expanding this winter as all home heating oil in NYC I believe will require a mix of biofuels, so this business will increase as the cold weather approaches. UltraGreen also takes cars in Yaphank at BRT, and this will increase as well.
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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by SlackControl » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:18 pm

Nice! Glad to see rail freight picking up.

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by workextra » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:01 am

We know the LIRR would rather not, But the industry track in question would benefit from a switch on the East end as well.
Making it essentially a DEF would provide more flexibility allowing NYAR to lay up cars for this consignee and or when in a Jam clear up there for passenger service.
I noticed the spur cleared to the boxcars. I don't know how far back that track goes but it goes further back then where the boxcars are rusting. The switch to the boxcars is not exposed and not there. When I seen the track cleared I thought the end was near for the rusting hulks.

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by jayrmli » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:01 am

Those boxcars are privately owned, and are/were used for storage by the owner of that building. The track curved away from the Main Line right after those boxcars, past a small area people parked their cars, past a gate, and over the road to a customer formerly serviced by LIRR and NYAR - Chesler Plywood. One of the more difficult customers to service as there was always some type of roadblock to getting back there and never enough time to clear it. The other issue was the switch was protected by an electric lock, so by rule a train could clear the main there, but it was an older style of electric lock and would never clear the operator's board at Nassau, which would cause them to have to issue a train order. No one wanted to do this, so it was always known that you can't clear up there. (Freeport team track was the same way.)

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by tj48 » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:22 pm

Found this on youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC5UixfoCB8
pretty cool watching engineer gunning the C420 back and forth to finish switching.

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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by Teutobergerwald » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:37 pm

Passed this morning and saw only one tankcar spotted at this customer. I've seen many more in previous times passing by. Is business down here? Thanks.
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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by jayrmli » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:50 am

It's a seasonal business and will pick up shortly...
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Re: New Hyde Park Biodiesel

Post by LINYARailfan » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:35 pm

Just passed New Hyde Park siding and did not see any tank cars at New Hyde Park oil terminal. Is New Hyde Park oil terminal still a NYA customer or is he no longer served by NYA?

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