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I would suspect that tomorrow or Friday will wrap up the scrapping of the RS-11's. Two cranes are now on site loading pieces onto trucks and into dumpster for transport to the scrapper's yard. Tonight around 5:00 a tractor-trailer went down the road in front of me with two intact truck frames and I've seen that same truck there loaded twice before so some, if not all, of the truck frames have been saved intact.
After the engines are gone I assume they'll turn their attention back to the LIRR coach that's there.
On a brighter note I caught 18 drilling at the junction this morning pulling out some tank cars that have been in storage there. He then went east with several tanks. They weren't corn oil so I assume they were going to the lubricants place in East Hanover. I heard him return west a couple of hours later but with the advent of spring and leaves my view down to the crossing is severly impaired.
After the engines are gone I assume they'll turn their attention back to the LIRR coach that's there.
On a brighter note I caught 18 drilling at the junction this morning pulling out some tank cars that have been in storage there. He then went east with several tanks. They weren't corn oil so I assume they were going to the lubricants place in East Hanover. I heard him return west a couple of hours later but with the advent of spring and leaves my view down to the crossing is severly impaired.
From the Star Ledger;
COSTLY CLEANUP
Friday, May 11, 2007
BY BILL SWAYZE
Star-Ledger Staff
The business responsible for a spill of some 200 to 300 gallons of diesel fuel in Hanover Wednesday night will likely face criminal charges, authorities in the Morris County Prosecutor's Office said yesterday.
There will also be a hefty bill for the cleanup, which is expected to take at least a week and cost $1,500 an hour, workers involved in the effort said the spill originated on Morristown & Erie Railway property off Jefferson Road. About 25 to 50 gal lons of fuel reached the Whippany River and the bulk of the fuel seeped into the ground, contaminating the soil, said Christopher Hagerman, a supervisor with the cleanup outfit handling the job, Atlantic Response Inc.
The spill was linked to the disassembly of locomotives recently sold to a Mississippi-based company that strips them down, sells the engines and makes a profit on the sale of scrap metal, said Alvin Siebold, a security specialist with the railway. He said five locomo tives were sold and two were dismantled this week at the site.
Most of the diesel fuel in the tanks -- which can hold up to 2,000 gallons -- was removed, but Sie bold said some residual amounts seeped into the ground and contaminated the river.
Yesterday, the cleanup crew continued to soak up and contain the spill using booms and blankets in the river and tributary.
The spill was located in an industrial area, and there was no immediate danger to homeowners.
COSTLY CLEANUP
Friday, May 11, 2007
BY BILL SWAYZE
Star-Ledger Staff
The business responsible for a spill of some 200 to 300 gallons of diesel fuel in Hanover Wednesday night will likely face criminal charges, authorities in the Morris County Prosecutor's Office said yesterday.
There will also be a hefty bill for the cleanup, which is expected to take at least a week and cost $1,500 an hour, workers involved in the effort said the spill originated on Morristown & Erie Railway property off Jefferson Road. About 25 to 50 gal lons of fuel reached the Whippany River and the bulk of the fuel seeped into the ground, contaminating the soil, said Christopher Hagerman, a supervisor with the cleanup outfit handling the job, Atlantic Response Inc.
The spill was linked to the disassembly of locomotives recently sold to a Mississippi-based company that strips them down, sells the engines and makes a profit on the sale of scrap metal, said Alvin Siebold, a security specialist with the railway. He said five locomo tives were sold and two were dismantled this week at the site.
Most of the diesel fuel in the tanks -- which can hold up to 2,000 gallons -- was removed, but Sie bold said some residual amounts seeped into the ground and contaminated the river.
Yesterday, the cleanup crew continued to soak up and contain the spill using booms and blankets in the river and tributary.
The spill was located in an industrial area, and there was no immediate danger to homeowners.
CV the Civil E
...would explain the sudden appearance of several large tarps covering the ground @ the Jefferson ave. runaround this morning. An M&E flat is ready to move with 2 of the prime movers, couple generators and traction motors, other than that, 3 cabs are pretty much all that remains.
-Ryan
-Ryan
Hmm, why weren't the tanks fully drained before the scrapping began???
Way to go guys!!!
Way to go guys!!!
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I think you can blame that on the company doing the scrapping, not the M&E.
Sandy
Sandy
Sandy Burton wrote:I think you can blame that on the company doing the scrapping, not the M&E.
Sandy
Uhh, did I say M&E anywhere???? No!
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"Each of us makes his own weather, determines the color of the skies in the emotional universe which he inhabits."
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No, you did not say M&E anywhere. I was trying to clarify, that is all. I totally agree with your comment.
Sandy
Sandy
Anyone have any more info on this? I'm wondering how this fuel traveled through the ground to the river so quickly? Perhaps it went into a storm drain? Using Google Earth, The closest the river is to that siding is 212 yards. Thats quite a ways to travel in only a few days no? I have my doubts.
Hanover Twp, Is notorious for harassing businesses that do anything they don't like and I'm 100% sure that don't want these loco's being scrapped there. They are very fussy about what can be seen and how things look. I worked in Whippany for 11 years and we had to deal with them time and time again. Everything from where we put wrecked cars in back of our building to them calling and demanding we move our tow trucks because they didn't like them parked in view of Rt. 10 even during business hours. Their treatment of the Eden Wood corp (owners of the land where Whippany Paperboard Eden Mill once was) is nothing short of criminal. Anyone from the area knows what I mean.
Hanover Twp, Is notorious for harassing businesses that do anything they don't like and I'm 100% sure that don't want these loco's being scrapped there. They are very fussy about what can be seen and how things look. I worked in Whippany for 11 years and we had to deal with them time and time again. Everything from where we put wrecked cars in back of our building to them calling and demanding we move our tow trucks because they didn't like them parked in view of Rt. 10 even during business hours. Their treatment of the Eden Wood corp (owners of the land where Whippany Paperboard Eden Mill once was) is nothing short of criminal. Anyone from the area knows what I mean.
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If the soil perks it's a fast conduit to any water source. Oil in general will always seek water and therefore end up there quicker if conditions are correct.
it did rain very hard around 5am from a thunderstorm that rolled thru morris county eastwards. Rain probably carried it away.