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Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

 by JeffK ¦  Thu May 26, 2022 9:32 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates ¦  Replies: 279 ¦  Views: 80381

Yes. The Wawa chain in Florida started in PA as Wawa Dairy Farms. They were local to SE PA for a long time, then started to expand* a few decades ago. New store territories were contiguous (DE, MD, DC) until they found there was demand from Philly ex-pats in Florida. You should go inside some time,...

Re: SEPTA Mask Mandate Over

 by JeffK ¦  Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:31 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA Mask Mandate Over ¦  Replies: 10 ¦  Views: 1049

From the DOJ late this afternoon:

"The Department of Justice and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) disagree with the district court’s decision and will appeal, subject to CDC’s conclusion that the order remains necessary for public health."
Stay tuned, all.

Re: SEPTA Mask Mandate Over

 by JeffK ¦  Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:05 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA Mask Mandate Over ¦  Replies: 10 ¦  Views: 1049

Welp I hope this increases ridership! This is big PHL (and Everyone) - Not So Fast... Ending the mask requirement will be welcome news to some riders - BUT NOT ALL... There will likely be appeals to this ruling - and other transit agencies (NY MTA a good example) will still require and enforce a ma...

Re: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates

 by JeffK ¦  Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:21 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA Rebuilding for the Future Updates ¦  Replies: 279 ¦  Views: 80381

Silverliner5 wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:27 pm Is it possible to retrofit the Silverliners with battery packs cause it seems cheaper than buying new ALC-42Es
How much additional rehab would be needed? It (naïvely) seems you'd new power systems but the rest of the car would still be ~50 years old.

Re: Septa Trolley Modernization

 by JeffK ¦  Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:45 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Septa Trolley Modernization - Alstom Fleet ¦  Replies: 120 ¦  Views: 19290

Would love to see the 56 restored since there is still a ROW but it need to be connected to some other line. If we are going to spend 2B on the KOP extension I rather spend it on the trolley route that connects both Allegheny {Allegany] Ave and City line ave. Would have triple the amount of riders ...

Re: Septa Trolley Modernization

 by JeffK ¦  Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:44 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Septa Trolley Modernization - Alstom Fleet ¦  Replies: 120 ¦  Views: 19290

I found some hidden expansions on the system where 102 trolley comes to darby T.C and route 15 to 69th street https://planning.septa.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/map_with_Legend-1536x512-1.png Interesting! I know we hashed this around earlier, but it makes me wonder if there's any slim chance of ...

Re: Septa Trolley Modernization

 by JeffK ¦  Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:36 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Septa Trolley Modernization - Alstom Fleet ¦  Replies: 120 ¦  Views: 19290

The information I found on Siemens' site makes it look like they only build for two gauges, standard and narrow (1000 mm) At the same time they offer the cars in multiple widths. Naïvely it would seem an adaptation for PA gauge wouldn't be prohibitively complex, assuming of course it doesn't conflic...

Re: Has there ever been proposal to convert NHSL to subway Guage.

 by JeffK ¦  Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:00 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Has there ever been proposal to convert NHSL to subway Guage. ¦  Replies: 17 ¦  Views: 3775

Do you mean dual gauge between the Pennsylvania trolley gauge and standard? Dual gauge track between gauges differing by more than that does not seem to be highly problematic. Yes. The whole point of forcing such a small difference on trolley lines was to preclude interoperation. Among other things...

Re: Septa Trolley Modernization

 by JeffK ¦  Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:37 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Septa Trolley Modernization - Alstom Fleet ¦  Replies: 120 ¦  Views: 19290

Is it true that the lines the SEPTA changed to buses were all entirely street running throughout? Are you only referring to lines replaced by diesel buses or also ones replaced by trolleybuses? There were (at least) three other lines that used the tunnels. These were all PTC rather than SEPTA: * 31...

Re: This is not to say whether it should happen or not.

 by JeffK ¦  Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:23 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Has there ever been proposal to convert NHSL to subway Guage. ¦  Replies: 17 ¦  Views: 3775

If this line is ever converted, would it be done by closing the whole line for conversion or by dual gauging the whole line for a transition. That's an "if" without a "then". As MACTRAXX, I, et al have noted interrunning is a nonstarter because it's (a) hugely cost-prohibitive a...

Re: SEPTA to offer welcome back discount on passes

 by JeffK ¦  Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:31 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA to offer welcome back discount on passes ¦  Replies: 11 ¦  Views: 1361

The idea of tying passes exclusively to fixed calendar periods was stupid before COVID and is even more so now. I lost track of the number of times I had to buy something like a 10-trip (RIP) or balance wasting part of a monthly pass versus buying weeklies due to vacations, business travel, etc. Gra...

Re: SEPTA NPT card will be "SEPTA Key"?

 by JeffK ¦  Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:30 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA NPT card will be "SEPTA Key"? ¦  Replies: 995 ¦  Views: 189482

JeffK that is a really good way of putting it, Thank you. I appreciate the props. Septa treats the system like we are using tokens still. While the Key's added some benefits like slightly more seamless intermodal payment, as several of us warned way back when NPT was first sketched out, riders on t...

Re: SEPTA NPT card will be "SEPTA Key"?

 by JeffK ¦  Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:11 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: SEPTA NPT card will be "SEPTA Key"? ¦  Replies: 995 ¦  Views: 189482

That is so stupid. Good lord the penny pinchers have terrible fare policies. We shall see they can make fare policies that fits today's public transit users. It's way too complicated. I don't think anyone at 1234 has a clue about "simple". Back in the bad old days of tokens, etc. there we...

Re: Suburban LRV on Subway Surface Lines

 by JeffK ¦  Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:55 am ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Suburban LRV on Subway Surface Lines ¦  Replies: 24 ¦  Views: 2745

My observations seem to indicate that trolly [sic] pole wire can be constructed cheaper than say dual trolly [sic] pole / pan operation. One item is that the support wires for the trolly wires need clearances so the pan will not snag support wires. According to several articles I've read pans have ...

Re: Suburban LRV on Subway Surface Lines

 by JeffK ¦  Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:21 pm ¦  Forum: SEPTA (and PATCO) ¦  Topic: Suburban LRV on Subway Surface Lines ¦  Replies: 24 ¦  Views: 2745

install a crossover on the MFL, run them dead there Hmmm ... not sure what the safety implications of that might be. Then again, the Taylors originally wanted to operate their trolleys on the MFL itself. The trolleys were to be equipped with shoes as well as poles. Ron DeGraw (miss you, Ron!) once ...

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