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Re: "I Did It Once"; Or Overnight Amtrak Business Travel

 by edbear ¦  Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:22 am ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: "I Did It Once"; Or Overnight Amtrak Business Travel ¦  Replies: 56 ¦  Views: 8612

When it was plain DL & W, through cars, sleeper and coach, were operated from New York (Hoboken Terminal) via Scranton and Buffalo using the Nickel Plate from Buffalo to Chicago.

One Chicago and Eastern Illinois timetable in the late 1940s had the DIXIE FLAGLER, Chicago-Miami streamliner, shown as running EVERY THIRD YEAR, instead of EVERY THIRD DAY. This was a misprint. I have one in my collection.

Early in the streamliner era and for a time after World War II, a number of railroads had a women & children coach. At the end of World War II, when short run sleepers were requisitioned for bringing home uniformed service members, the New Haven ran an all-parlor OWL, Boston to New York. One par...

Re: Adult Male Passengers Only

 by edbear ¦  Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:12 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags, Trolleys, and Interurbans ¦  Topic: Adult Male Passengers Only … and other odd rules ¦  Replies: 13 ¦  Views: 2210

It was probably the rudimentary accomodations, most likely a caboose or bare bones combine. Also, I believe the road also offered conventional passenger service on those routes.

Re: Very Rare Video of Huge Freight heading to CP Yard

 by edbear ¦  Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:10 pm ¦  Forum: CSX Transportation including Pan Am ¦  Topic: Very Rare Video of Huge Freight heading to CP Yard ¦  Replies: 13 ¦  Views: 2364

The cars in the CP Yard all look like they are derelicts and stored there.

Re: Causes of Souther Pacific failure

 by edbear ¦  Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:01 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags, Trolleys, and Interurbans ¦  Topic: Causes of Souther Pacific failure ¦  Replies: 13 ¦  Views: 2573

Southern Pacific kind of got surrounded. Union Pacific got the Western Pacific, so it got a tough competitor for the Overland Route. Next UP got the MP, so that SP now had strong competition at Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and El Paso. The old friendly MP route through Pueblo which sent traffic to t...

Re: Why does Amtrak still serve North Philadelphia & Cornwells Heights?

 by edbear ¦  Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:52 am ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Why does Amtrak still serve North Philadelphia & Cornwells Heights? ¦  Replies: 65 ¦  Views: 9912

NJT Atlantic City service already runs in 30th Street, Pennsylvania Station, Philadelphia.

Re: Buffalo terminal in the 1940's

 by edbear ¦  Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:06 am ¦  Forum: DL&W, Erie and Erie Lackawanna ¦  Topic: Buffalo terminal in the 1940's ¦  Replies: 5 ¦  Views: 8878

I think the last Nickel Plate service into Buffalo also used the Babcock Street station.

Re: Buffalo terminal in the 1940's

 by edbear ¦  Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:14 am ¦  Forum: DL&W, Erie and Erie Lackawanna ¦  Topic: Buffalo terminal in the 1940's ¦  Replies: 5 ¦  Views: 8878

Erie passenger service into Buffalo ended about 1949 using the LV's Main & Scott Sts. terminal which was replaced in the mid-1950s by Dingens & South Ogden because the LV right-of-way was used for a branch of the New York Thruway. It was DL&W service that was relocated from the lakeside ...

Re: Lake Michigan Ferry Traffic

 by edbear ¦  Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:19 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: Lake Michigan Ferry Traffic ¦  Replies: 1 ¦  Views: 715

1956 carloadings from a 1957 Moody's Manual. Agricultural Products 7,548 (8.4%), Animal Products 5,955 (6.7%), Mine Products 17,492 (19.6%)-almost 13,000 CL were bituminous coal, Forest Products 12,115 (13.5%), Manufactured/Miscellaneous Products 46,324 (51.8%). It's probably a good bet that very li...

Re: B&M trash trains?

 by edbear ¦  Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:55 am ¦  Forum: Boston & Maine (B&M) | Maine Central (MEC) ¦  Topic: B&M trash trains? ¦  Replies: 6 ¦  Views: 1355

Correction to previous post. Reclamation Systems could not get a location on the B & M to take the trash, so whatever trash they had compacted was trucked to Carver.

Re: B&M trash trains?

 by edbear ¦  Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:37 am ¦  Forum: Boston & Maine (B&M) | Maine Central (MEC) ¦  Topic: B&M trash trains? ¦  Replies: 6 ¦  Views: 1355

The B & M was poised to run trash trains about 1970. An outfit named Reclamation Systems built a facility in East Cambridge below the Prison Point Bridge. Reclamation accepted trash and baled it. It was to be transported to, Carver, I think. However, the company and related businesses could not ...

Re: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?

 by edbear ¦  Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:12 pm ¦  Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources ¦  Topic: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing? ¦  Replies: 25 ¦  Views: 11552

About Minneapolitan's comment about why not E-L sales offices in certain cities. There was not much business coming from those places. In the 1950s WP, L&N and GM&O did not have Boston offices. By the late 1950s, the L & NE Boston office was out of the rep's home in Randolph. In the 1960...

Re: Guess while I'm asking questions, I have one about a PRR ticket

 by edbear ¦  Mon May 10, 2021 8:57 pm ¦  Forum: Pennsylvania Railroad ¦  Topic: Guess while I'm asking questions, I have one about a PRR ticket ¦  Replies: 2 ¦  Views: 909

It is a group ticket, the entire party was traveling together. Party tickets were issued for sports teams, theatrical groups, social and fraternal groups where everyone usually boarded together at the same station and left the train all together. Party fares were still being offered well into the 19...

Re: Railroad Busses

 by edbear ¦  Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:35 pm ¦  Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags, Trolleys, and Interurbans ¦  Topic: Railroad Buses ¦  Replies: 13 ¦  Views: 2454

The railroads were not required to divest themselves of their bus and truck operations. They were operated as a part of the railroad, rather than a separate operation like the airline. Usually railroad tickets were accepted for passage on the buses. The bus lines were salable. B & M Transportati...

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