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 by catfoodflambe ¦  Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:02 pm ¦  Forum: Penn Central ¦  Topic: What if Goverment Assistance happened earlier ¦  Replies: 26 ¦  Views: 19453

Same outcome. It's not possible to separate PC and the entire state of railroading in the Northeast after WWI - eventually, the same result (rationalization, consolidation, and deregulation) would have had to occur.

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:00 pm ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: Where to railfan in hilliard ohio ¦  Replies: 3 ¦  Views: 2699

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I live about a half-mile west of Buckeye Yard. If you're still planning a trip to the area, contact me off-line at [email protected] and I'll give you a complete rundown on trainwatching spots. There are several good ones.

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:58 pm ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: The end for the B&O Indiana Division? ¦  Replies: 19 ¦  Views: 11095

I'd love to see it - but most of UP's traffic from the west runs via Chicago - again, UP won't run anything into STL that doesn't have to due to costs and congestion. As far as traffic coming up from Texas and Louisiana- traffic for points south of Cincinnati would run into Nashville, which is CSX's...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:30 am ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: The end for the B&O Indiana Division? ¦  Replies: 19 ¦  Views: 11095

Remeber that CSX management made the decision to get rid of the St. Louis Divison many years ago when traffic levels were down and invested capital dollars elsewhere. It's been practical to keep the line around for overflow traffic - but I still fear there is no real future for the line. Sooner or l...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:47 pm ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: The end for the B&O Indiana Division? ¦  Replies: 19 ¦  Views: 11095

CSX did withdraw the abandonment petition. It's now used as an "overflow valve" for the Louisville-Cincinnati "Short Line", which is a physically fragile, mostly single-track line line. As an example, CSX suffered a tunnel collapse last year, and decided to daylight Eagle Tunnel....

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:28 pm ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: Xenia ¦  Replies: 60 ¦  Views: 62267

brokenrail - you are correct in that the -primary- Columbus-Indy freight route changed over to Union City (in early 1973, I think). I believe that in PRR days, a Richmond crew ran a daily Dayton Turn to move western traffic to and from the Dayton-Xenia area. The cars were then plugged into the mainl...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:35 pm ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: Xenia ¦  Replies: 60 ¦  Views: 62267

It's possible he's correct- rmember that PRR's Columbus-Indy freight route was the Chicago main as far west as Bradford, OH, then southwest through Greenville to Richmond, IN. Dayton-Richmond didn't see too much beyond the passenger trains Reasons: - Clement Hill on the east side of Dayton required ...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:38 am ¦  Forum: Conrail - 1976 to the Present ¦  Topic: The rush to rip up track, and why keep the track they did... ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 34777

It's true that the Dayton Branch was built the main line - they originally planned to connect with the Ohio and Mississippi (which became the B&O Cincinnati-St. Louis main) at Cincinnati to form a broad-gauge route to St. Louis. Things never panned out, and the line from Marion to Chicago built ...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:44 pm ¦  Forum: Conrail - 1976 to the Present ¦  Topic: The rush to rip up track, and why keep the track they did... ¦  Replies: 78 ¦  Views: 34777

"But the only rail service they have now that the EL mainline is gone is over the dark-territory Scottslawn Secondary, on a convoluted route from Columbus to a tie-in with the CR Indy Line" The Honda plant was and is located a good 20 miles to the southwest of Marion at the crossing of the...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:48 pm ¦  Forum: Pennsylvania Railroad ¦  Topic: What If: Pennsy In Operation today as Pennsy. ¦  Replies: 56 ¦  Views: 49391

I agree with the previous posters that PRR would have merged with another railroad had PC merger not taken place. However, if we are going to consider Pennsy as a stand-alone entity, I firmly disagree that PRR would have survived the 1970's recession. Of all the NY-Chicago carriers, they were by far...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:04 pm ¦  Forum: Midwestern Railfan ¦  Topic: OC accident in Columbus ¦  Replies: 4 ¦  Views: 1678

Is there a problem with the track structure in the area? This would be the third derailment along this mile-long stretch of ROW in the last three years - that I know of.

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:59 pm ¦  Forum: Conrail - 1976 to the Present ¦  Topic: Conrail cabeese still in use. ¦  Replies: 20 ¦  Views: 8934

One still haunts the Washington Court House, Ohio area. The Indiana and Ohio uses it for long backup moves in switching customers in the area - along with a ex DT&I caboose.

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:04 pm ¦  Forum: New York Central ¦  Topic: 1895 Big Four Bridge ¦  Replies: 4 ¦  Views: 1974

If you've ever crossed the Ohio River on I-65 in downtown Louisville, you've seen it - it's just upstream. It is a MASSIVE black through-truss bridge, sitting what must be eighty to ninety feet above the normal river level - and is completely isolated. The approach spans were removed thirty years ag...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:37 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: How Did Railroads Maintain a Profit? ¦  Replies: 38 ¦  Views: 4467

The one-two punch of the Interstate Highway System and the jet airplane in the late 1950's doomed the passenger train. After 1960, railroad accounting might have been able to show a "profit" for a passenger train network based on zero capital costs - but such accounting did not provide for...

 by catfoodflambe ¦  Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:23 pm ¦  Forum: Conrail - 1976 to the Present ¦  Topic: The rationalization of redundant trackage... ¦  Replies: 36 ¦  Views: 11779

Andyt293... Re- the Charmin plant in Mehoopany.... Trust me – the story related to you about the traffic being too profitable is inaccurate. I did a case study on this traffic as a college student majoring in Transportation and Logistics in the mid 1980’s Factor #1 : When Mehoopany was on LV's main ...