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by Minneapolitan
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources
Topic: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?
Replies: 18
Views: 6891

Re: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?

In the pre-deregulation days before contracts, tariffs would dictate the rates and approved routes , along with how the shipping charges would be divvied up... The "approved routes" thing seems crucial here and I'm still a little confused. If the shipper had total right to route freight how they wa...
by Minneapolitan
Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Lehigh and New England Railroad
Topic: L&NE and NYS&W interchange freight
Replies: 8
Views: 11155

Re: L&NE and NYS&W interchange freight

The NYS&W survived because they owned a tunnel in Weehawken, New Jersey that the New York Central's West Shore Line needed. So...trackage rights through the tunnel kept the whole company afloat? Doesn't make sense. And after the WB&E was abandoned, what other traffic was on the line to the Delaware...
by Minneapolitan
Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:13 pm
Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources
Topic: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?
Replies: 18
Views: 6891

Re: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?

The whole tariff system was incredibly complex. Railroads were members of rate bureaus which established rates in general, as well as routes which they all agreed on... Bureaus? As in...plural? How many rate bureaus were there and what was their legitimacy? This part is still foreign to me. Again, ...
by Minneapolitan
Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:22 pm
Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources
Topic: Yard Ops Question
Replies: 2
Views: 2454

Re: Yard Ops Question

Basically, what he said. Too much radio chatter on the same channel sucks, so keep everything short and simple. When the air waves are swamped with communication, don't be afraid to use the word "over" as a courtesy to both your own crew and other crews even though, depending on specific company rul...
by Minneapolitan
Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:50 pm
Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources
Topic: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?
Replies: 18
Views: 6891

Re: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?

While shippers dictate routing, railroads can influence routing. Railroads will typically try to maximize their length of haul or funnel freight to a favored interchange, using the pricing lever to do so. Whichever railroad has more bargaining power in a combination move will likely prevail. (An ex...
by Minneapolitan
Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: Operations, Facilities, Maps and Resources
Topic: Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?
Replies: 18
Views: 6891

Clerks vs. Shippers: Who Decided Routing?

"Be Specific - Ship Union Pacific" "Route Superior Gateway for Superior Service" "Money-Saver Service" "Links East & West" We all know the slogans seen on infinite boxcars from the old days. What's implied in the advertising is that people of the general public used to have some say in how their sh...
by Minneapolitan
Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags
Topic: Untangling The Twin Ports
Replies: 5
Views: 7320

Re: Untangling The Twin Ports

Where was the Soo in Duluth? I know where it was in Superior.

For that matter, where were the DSS&A yards? How did they both cross the harbor?
by Minneapolitan
Sun May 15, 2016 8:35 pm
Forum: New York State Railfan
Topic: Alfred E. Smith Memorial Bridge
Replies: 16
Views: 5671

Re: Alfred E. Smith Memorial Bridge

Was this bridge considered part of the B&A or the NYC proper?

A few maps I've seen suggests that the eastern part of the Castleton Cutoff was officially B&A, ending directly over the Hudson River.

So really, who "owned" the cutoff?
by Minneapolitan
Thu May 12, 2016 9:09 pm
Forum: Baltimore & Ohio/Chesapeake & Ohio/Western Maryland
Topic: NEWARK - COLUMBUS
Replies: 11
Views: 8584

Re: NEWARK - COLUMBUS

On a somewhat related topic of joint use rail lines, how did the PRR and NYC obtain trackage rights via the B&O from Ravenna to Niles Jct.? The NYC accessed this line from its Lake Erie & Pittsburgh subsidiary from Brady Lake Jct. via the PRR to RN Tower. Was there ever an effort by either the NYC ...
by Minneapolitan
Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:40 am
Forum: Western Railfan
Topic: CHICAGO - OMAHA CREW CHANGE POINTS
Replies: 12
Views: 13417

Re: CHICAGO - OMAHA CREW CHANGE POINTS

Minneapolitan wrote:
2nd trick op wrote:CGW's principal hub was at Oelwein, Iowa, but another crew change would have been required between Oelwein and the Omaha gateway.
It was Fort Dodge.
Oops...I'm full of $h!t. It was Clarion. Fort Dodge seems logical until one learns a little more about how CGW operated its system.
by Minneapolitan
Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:03 am
Forum: Canadian Pacific Railway
Topic: The end of CP reign at the D&H and the D.M.&E
Replies: 52
Views: 25584

Re: The end of CP reign at the D&H and the D.M.&E

CP wanted out of the leases on the 6400 series. What leases? If that's true, it's just more stupidity on CP's part. Those ICE 6400s are former BN units and, generally speaking, were better maintained and pull noticeably better than most of the DME units. Those are older and mostly former Milwaukee ...
by Minneapolitan
Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags
Topic: Why Didn't Illinois Central Build Further Into Minnesota?
Replies: 1
Views: 4008

Why Didn't Illinois Central Build Further Into Minnesota?

Hey all ~ When I was a kid, I remember my uncle saying something about Illinois Central being denied by the state of Minnesota to build further north than Albert Lea, MN. Though my memory is hazy, the reason had to do with an event during the Civil War in which the IC was given the job of transporti...
by Minneapolitan
Thu May 22, 2014 4:03 pm
Forum: Canadian National/Illinois Central and Grand Trunk Western
Topic: Why Didn't Illinois Central Build Further Into Minnesota?
Replies: 17
Views: 13790

Why Didn't Illinois Central Build Further Into Minnesota?

Hey all ~ When I was a kid, I remember my uncle saying something about Illinois Central being denied by the state of Minnesota to build further north than Albert Lea, MN. Though my memory is hazy, the reason had to do with an event during the Civil War in which the IC was given the job of transporti...
by Minneapolitan
Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion: Fallen Flags
Topic: "Natural"/obvious mergers.
Replies: 24
Views: 19244

Re: "Natural"/obvious mergers.

Why didn't the L&NE and the Susquehanna merge? With a deepwater port in New York harbor, the cement plants (and earlier, the anthracite collieries) served by L&NE could ship their product worldwide. Additionally, northeastern Jersey could have had a simpler freight connection to the Maybrook Gatewa...
by Minneapolitan
Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:27 am
Forum: Lehigh and New England Railroad
Topic: L&NE and NYS&W interchange freight
Replies: 8
Views: 11155

Re: L&NE and NYS&W interchange freight

Here's the bigger question for me: Why didn't the L&NE and the Susquehanna MERGE?? With a deepwater port in New York harbor, the cement plants (and earlier, the anthracite collieries) served by L&NE could ship their product worldwide. Over eighteen miles of the L&NE main was trackage rights over a t...

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