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Re: Port Authority advancing PATH extension to Newark Airpor

 by Adirondacker ¦  Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:28 pm ¦  Forum: NYCT MTA Subway, PATH and SIRT ¦  Topic: Port Authority advancing PATH extension to Newark Airport ¦  Replies: 318 ¦  Views: 94840

It'll happen, the lack of airport to downtown public transport is a huge black eye on the America transportation landscape. Also United is lobbying for it. And if the deals with United and the PA were under the table, whatever, sometimes that is the ONLY way things get done in this broken system. I...

Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

 by Adirondacker ¦  Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:51 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: AMTRAK NEC: Springfield Shuttle/Regional/Valley Flyer/Inland Routing ¦  Replies: 2317 ¦  Views: 433326

.... Google pegs it at 43 minutes, but that presumably assumes you're going the speed limit: I know I've made it from my former in-laws' place in West Hartford in closer to 35. And from New Haven you have basically half-hourly Metro-North service to New York from 4 a.m. until Midnight on weekdays, ...

Re: Port Authority advancing PATH extension to Newark Airpor

 by Adirondacker ¦  Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:36 am ¦  Forum: NYCT MTA Subway, PATH and SIRT ¦  Topic: Port Authority advancing PATH extension to Newark Airport ¦  Replies: 318 ¦  Views: 94840

...The storage yard envisioned for it would only be under one of the alternatives, not both. If they are going to be using the storage between Penn Station and South Street to run trains and run trains that are 25% longer on the line they need someplace to store trains. And more cars. And more cars...

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:10 am ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

I apologize (and I don't mean this sarcastically) but I don't understand what you're getting at. Are you saying the Gateway tunnels need to include a new PATH tube and/or other rapid transit? No, Other people have the delusion that passengers will get off a train that is going to Penn Station and g...

Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

 by Adirondacker ¦  Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:49 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: AMTRAK NEC: Springfield Shuttle/Regional/Valley Flyer/Inland Routing ¦  Replies: 2317 ¦  Views: 433326

You are not seriously trying to make a flat comparison between boardings/alightings at a station that gets 38 trains per day vs. one that gets 17, are you? Yes. Ridership from similar origins to the same destination should roughly be the same. Wikipedia says the Census Bureau says the Albany Metrop...

Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

 by Adirondacker ¦  Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:03 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: AMTRAK NEC: Springfield Shuttle/Regional/Valley Flyer/Inland Routing ¦  Replies: 2317 ¦  Views: 433326

The reason Hartford has lousy ridership is that Hartford has lousy service. Hartford doesn't have lousy ridership. It has lousy ridership compared to Albany, a similarly sized metro area that is farther away from New York. http://www.amtrak.com/pdf/factsheets/CONNECTICUT14.pdf" onclick="w...

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:31 pm ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

The tangential discussion of adding a bi-level component to the Gateway tunnels similar to ESA in the East River. They have railroad track in common. The LIRR tunnel under 63rd St. is parallel to the subway tunnel. The tracks between New Jersey and Long Island run perpendicular to the tracks under ...

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:13 pm ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

Swooping down to 18th Street or so, stopping at 23rd, 34th, Tenth Ave, Times Square and Fifth Avenue takes time. It will be faster to go to Penn Station go one stop to Times Square and take the shuttle. Or in 2050 just stay on the suburban train through Penn Station and get off at Grand Central. The...

Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

 by Adirondacker ¦  Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:03 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: AMTRAK NEC: Springfield Shuttle/Regional/Valley Flyer/Inland Routing ¦  Replies: 2317 ¦  Views: 433326

They're never going to skip Stamford. That's the second-busiest station in Connecticut after New Haven, with 397k riders/year-- more than Hartford & Springfield combined. Probably not. The reason Hartford has lousy ridership is that Hartford has lousy service. It won't be so lousy after they ge...

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:18 pm ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

(and Amtrak has little reason to go to GCT and that's a weird way to get to Hells Gate btw). it's served by the busiest subway line in the country. It carries more people than than any other system in the country. And the Flushing line. If they want to use the Hell Gate line for subway service and ...

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:30 pm ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

a new PATH line, 33rd St - Weehawken - Secaucus/Meadowlands Why would people get off a fast train to Manhattan to get on a slower train to Manhattan? That said, it may make a bit of sense to design a lower level that after hours could run freight to Long Island. They want to divert enough freight f...

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:15 pm ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

rr503 wrote: What if you made them free+added frequency, and then used the PATH capacity for NWK?
You need a dozen or so 2,000 passenger ferries and someplace to dock them. The docks aren't big enough, there aren't enough docks and there aren't a dozen or so 2,000 passenger ferries just laying around.

Re: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels

 by Adirondacker ¦  Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:26 pm ¦  Forum: New York City Area Wide Rail Transit Issues (Cross-Agency) ¦  Topic: Amtrak Gateway Tunnels ¦  Replies: 2328 ¦  Views: 526949

rr503 wrote: How much service would have to be cut to run all trains into Hoboken, and say, turn some (or most? Or all?) RVL, NJC, NEC at NWK?
Where do they go once they get to Hoboken or Newark? PATH is already at capacity, there isn't enough tunnel for buses, if we had the buses. Ferries aren't an option.

Re: Why is Boston-NY service so spotty?

 by Adirondacker ¦  Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:31 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Why is Boston-NY service so spotty? ¦  Replies: 40 ¦  Views: 6267

YamaOfParadise wrote:...the New Haven Line is the busiest stretch of railroad in the country...
No it's not. The stretch where it merges with Harlem line is busier and the fiddly bit between Mott Haven and Grand Central is even busier when the trains from the Hudson Line merge in.
Woodside has a bit of traffic too.

Re: Springfield Line Upgrade in CT

 by Adirondacker ¦  Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:05 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: AMTRAK NEC: Springfield Shuttle/Regional/Valley Flyer/Inland Routing ¦  Replies: 2317 ¦  Views: 433326

NH2060 wrote:.. So there's a more organized way...
Ultimately CDOT decides how trains run on the New Haven line and if CDOT wants to run trains from the rest of the state, they'll run. They'll get reorganized.

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