Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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  by Bay Head Local
 
Does anyone have or know where I can get the average weekday boarding for each station?I have them for NJT and MNRR all I need now is LIRR

  by RetiredLIRRConductor
 
Not sure that is public information anymore in the era of al queda

  by M&Eman
 
If LIRR uses that excuse then it is just BS for laziness. NJT and MNRR openly share their ridership figures down to individual stations with the public. The LIRR, especially being an organ of the MTA like MNRR, should do the same.

  by Jamie
 
There's someone who posts on TheLIRR.com who can probably help you with this.

  by bellstbarn
 
In the last century (1998), I received 1994 and 1996 comparison data just by asking the Long Island Railroad Commuters Council, which passed my request to the LIRR Community Affairs bureau. Rather than post the entire comparison (plus and minus), let me do just the Nassau stations in 1996 (based on morning pasenger counts at each station). The order is from most increase to most loss (1994-1996), but that is of little import now. I was grateful that they provided the interesting list.
Hicksville 6,290
Mineola 2,217
Great Neck 2,989
Syosset 2,351
Valley Stream 2,209
Farmingdale 986
Westbury 1,482
Freeport 1,536
Lynbrook 1,452
Glen Head 164
Island Park 1,145
Merillon Ave 590
West Hempstead 226
Garden City 581
Locust Valley 178
Woodmere 629
Lawrence 263
Nassau Blvd 676
Manhasset 2,185
East Rockaway 472
Albertson 170
Oyster Bay 57
Malverne 524
Glen Cove 147
Seaford 1,412
Far Rockaway 58
Mill Neck 2
Gibson 493
Westwood 345
Lakeview 302
Baldwin 2,890
Greenvale 82
Carle Place 294
Bellerose 510
Glen Street 145
Stewart Manor 759
Hewlett 641
Bellmore 2, 689
Plandome 465
Sea Cliff 188
East Williston 459
Roslyn 231
Massapequa 2,508
Country Life Press 298
Floral Park 1,213
Hempstead Garden139
Oceanside 1,258
Centre Ave 483
Cedarhusrst 516
New Hyde Park 1,168
Port Washington 2,429
Bethpage 1,069
Massapequa Park 1,475
Hempstead 800
Inwood 232
Merrick 2,797
Rockville Centre 2,147
Long Beach 1,631
Wantagh 2,723
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The list includes Suffolk, Queens, and Brooklyn, if you are interested.

  by Bay Head Local
 
Thanx,very interesting, if its not too much trouble can you please post the rest of the list?

  by bellstbarn
 
Please see my previous post for an explanation of these 1996 figures (morning boarding counts):
SUFFOLK COUNTY:
Huntington 4,628
Babylon 3,245
Sayville 557
Islip 353
Deer Park 1,809
Speonk 66
Hampton Bays 15
Kings Park 858
Amagansett 3
Southold 9
Amityville 759
Quogue 0
Montauk 5
Mattituck 8
Westhampton 8
Greenport 3
Southampton 7
Bellport 10
Great River 79
Riverhead 7
Holtsville 4
Yaphank 5
Patchogue 464
Smithtown 485
Center Moriches 11
Bridgehampton 10
Southampton Campus 0
East Hampton 15
Oakdale 156
Medford 15
St. James 211
Central Islip 1,510
Cold Spring Harbor 1,036
Mastic-Shirley 243
Northport 1,035
Bay Shore 450
Wyandanch 1,353
Brentwood 1,144
Grenlawn 415
Copiague 966
Port Jefferson 358
Stony Brook 332
Lindenhurst 1,274
Ronkonkoma 5,403
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QUEENS (Port Washington Branch, rearranged by geography)
Little Neck 1,424
Bayside 3,214
Auburndale 1,118
Broadway 989
Murray Hill 420
Flushing 303
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Woodside 142
Forest Hills 374
Kew Gardens 443
Jamaica 1,087
Hollis 52
Queens Village 468
St Alban's 39
Locust Manor 446
Laurelton 467
Rosedale 1,041
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BROOKLYN: East NY/Nostrand Ave 1
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(These figures are ten years out of date. They are labeled "Station-Based Passenger Count." Passenger counts should help in determining train frequency and number of coaches, but I think the LIRR can get only ball-park figures out of its ticket-selling machines, which do print the names of the stations between which the person asks to travel. Those figures cannot declare outright which train the person rode, although individual-ride tickets are collected by conductors, turned in, and presumably audied in some fashion. Once, I heard a LIRR spokesman say that there is a routine for reporting overcrowded trains. I remark that the morning passenger count does not reveal reverse-commuter numbers nor the numbers of those who travel outside the rush hours.)

  by RetiredLIRRConductor
 
Notice the total riders east of KO was 36. Yeah I guess we need 15 min service on that branch :wink:

  by bellstbarn
 
When I walked along a Mineola platform this afternoon, I took a count of waiting passengers. Westbound train 2057 (lv. Mineola 3:57 pm) was 12 minutes late, and there were 94 passengers waiting for it. Eastbound, both Train 1714 to Huntington and Train 556 to Oyster Bay were late, and I counted 54 people waiting, including about about twenty students from Chaminade. Note that these would not have been included in the 1996 figures of a.m. passenger counts. The westbounders are reverse commuters. The eastbound travelers would be categorized as "intermediate station riders." They are an significant part of the LIRR passengers.

  by peconicstation
 
LirrConductor wrote:Notice the total riders east of KO was 36. Yeah I guess we need 15 min service on that branch :wink:
Actually, this prooves my point, when you only have 1 Peak Hour Trip in the morning, this is the ridership you get.

Ken

  by NIMBYkiller
 
Agreed. Compare the numbers east of KO to KO. You talk about how you do so many counts. How about a survey be done for all Ronkonkoma passengers to see where they actually live.

  by kuzzel540
 
Just wondering. Are there any counts from stations on the lower montauk from 1996?

  by NIMBYkiller
 
3,2,1,0 with no blast off

  by cpontani
 
There are typically about 100 Chaminade daily commuters. Actually, I don't even think it's that many. They usually come from east of Huntington on the Port Jeff Branch, and also along the South Shore on the Montauk Branch (like Bay Shore). I had a school bus every day, but if I stayed late, I'd catch the train home.

  by GP38
 
LirrConductor wrote:Notice the total riders east of KO was 36. Yeah I guess we need 15 min service on that branch :wink:
But it is a chicken and egg scenario. They make that line so impossible to use, that no one can possibly use it. The stats for stations like Yaphank and Medford would be much much higher if they had "normal" service there. It's hardly the 1950's there anymore, and the MTA really needs to acknowledge that.
To their credit though, they are studying electrification to Yaphank.