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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by John_Perkowski
 
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  by GWoodle
 
Of interest, the L&N would accept Coach tickets (plus Pullman accommodation charge) to ride Cinci-Memphis. For our youngsters around here, the railroads traditionally had two classes of rail fares - Coach and First Class. Amtrak did away with that fare structure quite early in the game.
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Quite possible that in 1962 the Pan American held down a day schedule while the Hummingbird ran over night. So at one time could be 2 a day Louisville-Bowling Green- Memphis. It appears Hummingbird lasted to 1969 while Pan American held on to A day. It also appears L&N was notorious to terminate train when it got judge approval. So the 8 passengers on the last Pan shut down in Birmingham. Still operated on 11-12 hour schedule.
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
Mr. Woodle, to clarify your immediate, after reviewing March '69 Guide, anything passenger over the L&N (NC&StL) to Memphis was gone by '69. It appears it was "curtains" for the Humming Bird when the C&EI chopped it South of Danville, IL.

The Georgian hung on until A-Day St. Louis-Atlanta, but Coach only (March '71 Guide - everything frozen post-RPSA70 enactment).

Now I'm willing to bet your comment regarding terminating a train in Birmingham as soon as a judge signed an order related to the Humming Bird vice Pan Am. This practice was quite commonplace - at least the train made it to a station, which might or might not have been staffed, and resulted in a provision within RPSA70, that any train originating prior to A-Day would complete its journey to destination. Such was well documented in books such as Harold Edmondson "Journey to Amtrak" and by active photographers of the day such as Mel Patrick, Mike Schaefer, and Bob Schmidt.
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
Here's a reference to the Humming Bird being axed at Birmingham as soon as the discontinuance order was handed down from the judiciaey:

https://alchetron.com/Humming-Bird-(train)