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I had the pleasure of a trip by Turbotrain out of GCT many years ago but had no idea that the 3rd rail shoes could do over and under. Wonderful train to ride on back then.
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MACTRAXX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm 1-The United Aircraft Turbotrains that ran NYG/NYP-BOS had third rail capability and shoes that could useBefore we derail the topic with the Turboliners, let me switch back with a question.
either over or under running third rail.
2-Tracks 1 to 4 at Penn Station used to be at least strictly for New Jersey local trains from what I remember.
Amtrak would only use them if it were deemed necessary. Those four stub-end tracks had no third rail.
(Seconding RJ in his previous post 7/25 on this page)
STrRedWolf wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 amCorrect. It is why Keystones and NJT trains can use them.MACTRAXX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm 1-The United Aircraft Turbotrains that ran NYG/NYP-BOS had third rail capability and shoes that could useBefore we derail the topic with the Turboliners, let me switch back with a question.
either over or under running third rail.
2-Tracks 1 to 4 at Penn Station used to be at least strictly for New Jersey local trains from what I remember.
Amtrak would only use them if it were deemed necessary. Those four stub-end tracks had no third rail.
(Seconding RJ in his previous post 7/25 on this page)
Refresh my memory, but aren't Track 1 to 4 are caternary powered, right?
STrRedWolf wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:59 amDon't wanna go Turbo around a sharp curve and derail the thread... ok that's a bad pun. Let me get back on track.MACTRAXX wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:48 pm 1-The United Aircraft Turbotrains that ran NYG/NYP-BOS had third rail capability and shoes that could useBefore we derail the topic with the Turboliners, let me switch back with a question.
either over or under running third rail.
2-Tracks 1 to 4 at Penn Station used to be at least strictly for New Jersey local trains from what I remember.
Amtrak would only use them if it were deemed necessary. Those four stub-end tracks had no third rail.
(Seconding RJ in his previous post 7/25 on this page)
Refresh my memory, but aren't Track 1 to 4 are caternary powered, right?
ExCon90 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:49 pm The original intent was to have Tracks 1-4 lead into a third East River tube if it became necessary. Somewhere in Chris Baer's chronology on the PRRT&HS website is a memo from around 1937 reporting that a third tube will not be necessary after all; I think Track 1 has the beginning of a slight curve at the end allowing for that third tube.Was the memo separate from the chronology? I didn't see anything about it in the chronology http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/Hagl ... _15_15.pdf for that year.
Lrgt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:20 pm When you said “recently” in July 2021, how recently did you mean? The Amtrak press release for Moynihan said that it would discontinue the occasional use of tracks 1-4 on 1/1/21. Perhaps your experience was in late-2020?Pardon my delayed response. Anyways, as evidenced by what you & I stated, to clarify, recently was in regards to July 2021 when I started the thread. As I mentioned on page 2, I didn't take Amtrak or go to NYP (NY as a whole too) between March 2020 & June 2021, so that rules out late 2020. I checked my email and narrowed it down to Amtrak Keystone 664 on July 10, 2021.
It would be very difficult to herd typical pax from Moynihan to tracks 1-4 (although I do it all the time, coming from 9th Ave to access NJT on tracks 1-4)… You gotta use another track at Moynihan, walk til you find stairs to NYP lower level.
If I get lucky and my NJT train is on tracks 5-12, the Amtrak “cattle herders” give me grief if they are holding pax for boarding on the opposite side of my platform, and I need to jump the line to use the escalator FYI: showing them on NJT app that the NJT train is boarding from the opposite track is what gets them to let me past their velvet rope and hundreds of waiting pax- they’re probably trying to hold the pax til NJT departs!
MACTRAXX wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 6:58 pm Mr. Deasy - The Amtrak NYP-WAS Executive Sleeper was placed on Track 5 each night at Penn Station and wasThe one and only time I took the Executive Sleeper from NYP to WAS the car was spotted on Track 1. I recall the attendant guiding me to the car and I noted the stub end bumper beyond. So there may well have been use of different tracks depending on circumstances.
available for occupancy after 9 PM when the service was offered in the 1980s. Passengers would "check in" at
Station Services and be escorted down to the car. The Car Attendant kept the single vestibule end door locked
and be summoned by ringing the door bell for entry. At entry the reservation and ticket was checked and held
for collection by the Train Crew of #67 to Washington overnight. The ES that came north on #66 was spotted on
Track 5 and allowed to be occupied until 8 AM.