F40PH-3C overhaul program

Is the prime mover the issue here? I always thought it was the HEP. Metra operates long trains (9-10 cars) with all flavors of F40s all the time. Unless those gallery cars are a lot lighter than the MBTA's coaches, the F40s should be able to handle longer trains just fine if they can provide the HEP. But, Metra averages 30-35mph between stops on local trains, so that might be the real difference.

trains18 wrote:

Mbtagp40mc wrote:I’m curious.. will these rebuilds be able to handle the larger 8 or 9 car sets that the HSP46s can?

I'm not 100% sure but I think the F40PH-3C specifications will be upgraded to the same specs as the HSP's. Someone with more detailed info please fill me in because I can't find the information anywhere. Cheers to F40's

No, the rebuild doesn't change the power output and doesn't convert the F40s to AC power. Both of these factors make the HSP better at pulling heavy trains.

Any updates on 1050? Also, which loco is the next to return from Boise?

1050 is still down in Rochester testing.

No word on who's next out of Boise, except it should be one of the group shipped
out of storage in Kingston. First group to go...

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https://www.wcvb.com/amp/article/mbta-t ... s/27318537" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And now It looks like every single remaining F40 in the fleet is going to get the MPI Boise spa treatment.

Although it'll be interesting to see if the "27 additional" number was just a typo referring to the 27 F40s in total, or if the T has in fact approved the rebuilding of 27 additional locomotives on top of the 10 F40s already in line for Boise and they're sending 10 geeps off to be rebuilt as well.

CRail wrote:It was stated in January's Fiscal Management Control Board meeting that the option for the remaining 26 units will be exercised, meaning all of the stretch F40s will be rebuilt.

From this thread in January.

The article also noted that the 1050 should be back in service this week. Wonder if it'll join its fellow 1054 on the north side, where that has remained since returning to service.

Bramdeisroberts wrote:https://www.wcvb.com/amp/article/mbta-t ... s/27318537

And now It looks like every single remaining F40 in the fleet is going to get the MPI Boise spa treatment.

Although it'll be interesting to see if the "27 additional" number was just a typo referring to the 27 F40s in total, or if the T has in fact approved the rebuilding of 27 additional locomotives on top of the 10 F40s already in line for Boise and they're sending 10 geeps off to be rebuilt as well.

Just all the active F40PHM and 2Cs are getting rebuilt to F40PH-3C class. The original F40s are retired and I've seen multiple sources of that proof. Hoping that one will go to a museum but we will see. Not going to go further on that since it has nothing to do with the rebuilding topic.

GP40MC1118 wrote:1050 is still down in Rochester testing.

No word on who's next out of Boise, except it should be one of the group shipped
out of storage in Kingston. First group to go...

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1028, 1063, and 1068 were part of the 5 that were first sent from storage at Kingston, ma

Here's a snip-it copy of the photo and lead paragraph in Progressive Railroading's article re: MBTA decision to overhaul 27 more F40s apparently, per the accompanying photo, converting them into Type 7 trolleys!

https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... uls--57457

But at least Trains Magazine used the appropriate photo in its article: http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/20 ... ul-program

sonicdoommario wrote:The article also noted that the 1050 should be back in service this week. Wonder if it'll join its fellow 1054 on the north side, where that has remained since returning to service.

After the locos finish testing, they usually stay up north for a while to make sure they work well before going south.

So apparently 1050 is testing today. I heard from a friend that it’s going from Middleborough to South Hampton St. or South Station (not sure which one yet) then it’ll go to the BET via the Grand Junction branch. By the way, 1032 should be the next F40 returning from MPI.

Not testing, but just being ferried to BET.

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1065 is the next one to go west. Sometime next week.

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Once 1050 goes back into service, 1065 will be sent since there is no more in house overhauls occurring and it was the next one to brake down.