by Arlington
In re: Capitol & Cardinal:
If you did a survey of where WV people need to get to, I suspect that the top places would be:
DC, Cinci, & Pittsburgh as the closest commercial hubs, and the places that the families of "Hillbilly Elegy" migrated to, leaving connections both in WV and these hubs.
So the cousins, the grandkids, the funeral, the university medical center, the scholarship-to-college, the regional sales office, and the tall-building bankers and lawyers are in CIN, PGH, and WAS all of which are expensive to get to by air.
And vice-versa for where "tourists" and "weekend getaway" vacationers come from. The sweetspot for weekends is 2 ~3 hours away, and for vacations is 6 hours away.
This has strong implications for how you connect WV to CIN, WAS & PIT but also how you make corridor trains, in general.
And I think of Oxford Ohio and the 20,000 students at Miami of Ohio. Like UVa, or Liberty U, they've been bypassed by the interstates. They want a stop, but the Cardinal comes through at 2am (both ways). I think the corridor here is Indy-Cinci-CharlestonWV, which cannot be done by interstate (IND-CIN can but CIN-CHW cannot) and putting Oxford Ohio (OXO?) on that completes the set of
IND(2M)-CIN(2.5M)-HUN+CHW+etc(1M)-CVS+Nova(1M)-WAS(4M) and that's about 10M people.
What if the Capitol were, instead timed for
CHI-CLE-PGH a
WAS-PGH-CLE? Can Amtrak turn a train in CLE? (or should I note that in the appropriation request?) (or maybe keep going to "the other end" as a odd-hours revenue deadhead)
And the LSL split into:
CHI-CLE-BUF-ALB
(timed for the convenience of CHI-BUF, and tag NYP whenever as a revenue deadhead)
NYP-BUF-CLE-TOL
(timed for the convenience of NYP-CLE,and tag CHI whenever as a revenue deadhead)
Here again CURRENTLY all these night trains' biggest market and fans are end-to-enders, but that's because we're systematically screwing the potentially-bigger market of day corridors with crappy flyover timing.
If you did a survey of where WV people need to get to, I suspect that the top places would be:
DC, Cinci, & Pittsburgh as the closest commercial hubs, and the places that the families of "Hillbilly Elegy" migrated to, leaving connections both in WV and these hubs.
So the cousins, the grandkids, the funeral, the university medical center, the scholarship-to-college, the regional sales office, and the tall-building bankers and lawyers are in CIN, PGH, and WAS all of which are expensive to get to by air.
And vice-versa for where "tourists" and "weekend getaway" vacationers come from. The sweetspot for weekends is 2 ~3 hours away, and for vacations is 6 hours away.
This has strong implications for how you connect WV to CIN, WAS & PIT but also how you make corridor trains, in general.
And I think of Oxford Ohio and the 20,000 students at Miami of Ohio. Like UVa, or Liberty U, they've been bypassed by the interstates. They want a stop, but the Cardinal comes through at 2am (both ways). I think the corridor here is Indy-Cinci-CharlestonWV, which cannot be done by interstate (IND-CIN can but CIN-CHW cannot) and putting Oxford Ohio (OXO?) on that completes the set of
IND(2M)-CIN(2.5M)-HUN+CHW+etc(1M)-CVS+Nova(1M)-WAS(4M) and that's about 10M people.
What if the Capitol were, instead timed for
CHI-CLE-PGH a
WAS-PGH-CLE? Can Amtrak turn a train in CLE? (or should I note that in the appropriation request?) (or maybe keep going to "the other end" as a odd-hours revenue deadhead)
And the LSL split into:
CHI-CLE-BUF-ALB
(timed for the convenience of CHI-BUF, and tag NYP whenever as a revenue deadhead)
NYP-BUF-CLE-TOL
(timed for the convenience of NYP-CLE,and tag CHI whenever as a revenue deadhead)
Here again CURRENTLY all these night trains' biggest market and fans are end-to-enders, but that's because we're systematically screwing the potentially-bigger market of day corridors with crappy flyover timing.
Last edited by Arlington on Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:09 am, edited 3 times in total.
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