by mdvle
I would guess those options are for the questionable VIA owned line that has been proposed.
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mdvle wrote:I don't know about the political pressure - Bombardier hasn't been chosen in Quebec for the last 2 projects and I suspect that the Bombardier name (at least in rail) has such a bad reputation with the general public that it would be a brave politician that forced a Bombardier choice.10 months late response, but Bombardier really like to hoot itself on the leg lately. Bombarider begs the Quebec and Canadian governments for money ''To keep jobs inside Canada'' and when they get their money (Literally billions), they lay off thousands of people in Canada and even have the nerve of raising (or attempting to raise) the executives' salary by almost 50%.
It's also worth noting (perhaps as a warning to the politicians) that Bombardier also betrayed a politician. My recollection is the then mayor of Toronto (David Miller) did everything to give Bombardier the streetcar contract in a large part for supporting Canadian workers. Of course Bombardier then outsourced much of the work to Mexico.
NeoArashi wrote:Bombardier is seriously late in delivering the new streetcars for Toronto. They have been outsourcing a lot of the work to Mexico (so much for keeping jobs in Canada) and they have blamed the Mexico plant for the delays. Problems have already been discovered and a few streetcars at a time are being sent to Bombardier's Québec plant for correction. Again, they are blaming the Mexico plant for those problems.mdvle wrote:I don't know about the political pressure - Bombardier hasn't been chosen in Quebec for the last 2 projects and I suspect that the Bombardier name (at least in rail) has such a bad reputation with the general public that it would be a brave politician that forced a Bombardier choice.10 months late response, but Bombardier really like to hoot itself on the leg lately. Bombarider begs the Quebec and Canadian governments for money ''To keep jobs inside Canada'' and when they get their money (Literally billions), they lay off thousands of people in Canada and even have the nerve of raising (or attempting to raise) the executives' salary by almost 50%.
It's also worth noting (perhaps as a warning to the politicians) that Bombardier also betrayed a politician. My recollection is the then mayor of Toronto (David Miller) did everything to give Bombardier the streetcar contract in a large part for supporting Canadian workers. Of course Bombardier then outsourced much of the work to Mexico.
I'm not surprised Via Rail decided to give the contract to that german company for the latest contract. >_>
Two months after Bombardier announced the first vehicle for Toronto’s Eglinton Crosstown LRT was almost ready, the car has yet to be shipped, and the Quebec-based manufacturer now has just weeks to meet a deadline to deliver half a dozen of the new cars.https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/1 ... hicle.html
Under the terms of a $392-million contract agreed to last year, Bombardier is supposed to supply Metrolinx with 76 vehicles for the Crosstown, the $5.9-billion midtown light rail line that is currently under construction and is scheduled to open by September 2021.
dowlingm wrote:Bombardier twitter got a bit snippy when I pointed out that they could only wrap themselves in the flag so tightly while keeping Transportation Division headquartered in Berlin.It was based on Montreal until 2001 (and still has major operations/offices here), but is basically AdTranz taken over BBD's North America (pre-2001) rail operations. At least with the AdTranz merger, Westinghouse's transportation division in Pittsburgh (West Mifflin) lives on.
marquisofmississauga wrote: Bombardier is seriously late in delivering the new streetcars for Toronto. They have been outsourcing a lot of the work to Mexico (so much for keeping jobs in Canada) and they have blamed the Mexico plant for the delays. Problems have already been discovered and a few streetcars at a time are being sent to Bombardier's Québec plant for correction. Again, they are blaming the Mexico plant for those problems.Which begs the question why the Mexican plant is still involved in the contract given all the additional costs - both direct and to the reputation - that Bombardier is incurring.
marquisofmississauga wrote:Bombardier is seriously late in delivering the new streetcars for Toronto. They have been outsourcing a lot of the work to Mexico (so much for keeping jobs in Canada) and they have blamed the Mexico plant for the delays. Problems have already been discovered and a few streetcars at a time are being sent to Bombardier's Québec plant for correction. Again, they are blaming the Mexico plant for those problems.From other published articles, the aluminum car shells for the TTC streetcars are actually built in Mexico and assembled in Thunder Bay, though Thunder Bay is already a facility specializing in aluminum construction. Even the BART cars in Plattsburgh have the shells from Mexico, not Thunder Bay.
Time is running out for Via Rail cars from a bygone era
The train cars and locomotives must be replaced or long-distance and inter-regional service will suffer, Via says.
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The purpose is to highlight the work done by the Montreal crew, but there was also a clear agenda: to highlight the fact the aging equipment is coming to the end of its useful life. Via officials tell reporters that despite the great work of maintenance workers, they had to scrap 25 train cars after a recent inspection because they were too old. Other cars are likely to be called back at the next inspection, and the fleet is already not running at full capacity because the old cars have not been replaced. A long-distance train can pull as many as 20 passenger cars.
“At a certain point, they have to be replaced. They’re about 75 years old. That’s more than double the lifespan of most other train cars,” Via Rail spokesperson Jean-Vincent Lacroix said. “We have to salute the work of the teams here who perform miracles, but these trains are at the end of their lifespan.”
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Most of the train cars were inherited by Via when the Crown Corporation was created in the 1980s. They date back to the 1940s and ’50s, when rail travel in Canada was one of the only ways to see the country at an affordable rate. Entering the cars transports riders to another time, with vintage posters advertising Canadian destinations and tables with checkerboards painted on them.
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MACTRAXX wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:23 am The aging passenger cars being referred to are the former CP 1950s era stainless steel cars that wereHow about this wiki link
built by the Budd Company - and were conveyed to VIA in the middle 1970s when VIA was formed...
It would be interesting to see an updated VIA Rail Canada rail car roster to see what the current fleet status
is for the former CP cars and the other older stainless steel cars that were added to the HEP fleet...
MACTRAXX