bostontrainguy wrote:After seeing all those sleek modern designs, Boston once again goes for the ugly award.
And note the 50 mph maximum speed.
Blame loading gauges.
A good parallel here is the Panama Canal, the old locks were designed for what was considered an outlandishly large ship - for 1900. As a result, as the canal got busier and busier shipbuilders sought to maximize the amount of cargo or passengers that they could get through the canal's century-old locks (in order to maximize throughput through the canal itself), their ships started looking more and more alike, especially after the 1970's or so. Given the physical constraints imposed by the canal's old infrastructure, there was pretty much one way that you could build a container ship, tanker, bulk hauler, or cruise ship that still maintained good hydrodynamics and seakeeping abilities, while squeezing just about every cubic meter of space out of the canal's "loading gauge".
Like the Panama Canal, the Green Line is a 100+ year old piece of infrastructure operating at passenger volumes that would have given its original designers an aneurism. When the T made the switch to articulated LRV's instead of rigid trolleys in the 1970s, the extremely tight clearances on the Green Line all but dictated that an articulated LRV maximizing its use of the available space would by necessity have to look a certain way. That "certain way" was pretty much the sole reason for the Boeing LRV's "distinctive" looks, with flat ends allowing the designers to push the cab bulkheads as far to either end of the vehicle as possible in order to squeeze as many extra inches of passenger space as they could out of the existing clearances.
Because of that, nearly every design for the GL since has more or less resembled a Boeing LRV, being tall, with tapering ends and a blunt, flat-looking front end that uses vertical volume to minimize the footprint of the driver's area. Look at the LRV's, the Kinki's, the Bredas, and these new CAF cars side by side, and you'll see that it's just like looking at pictures of different Panamax cruise ships.
CRail wrote:The other design was a disgrace for esthetic and practical reasons. This rendering is sensible and is aN esthetic improvement over the type 8 for sure!
I noticed the skirt too. My guess is that it'll be mounted to and swive with the trucks. My guess is also that they won't last long. They'll be taken off so often for maintenance reasons they'll likely stop going back on (assuming they still have them when they arrive).
Hey hey hey, the type 8's have plenty of failings, but I've always thought that their looks have a wonderful 90's-ness to their almost whimsically techno-modern looks. They remind me of some of the wackier pieces of Japanese rolling stock from the late 80's to mid-90's.
As to CAF's reliability, last year I was in Santiago, Chile, and I got a chance to ride on the new CAF cars that they just purchased for their ever-expanding, WMATA-caliber metro system.
Here they are:
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I liked them a lot, and certainly at least as much as any of the newer Alstom trains running on that system, and that's saying something. The Santiago Metro, like Montreal and Mexico City, is an originally French-designed system built primarily around Paris-style rubber-tyred rolling stock, that up until the recent CAF order was always built by Alstom, the direct descendant of the original designers of that system.
As a "peculiar" piece of railway engineering, those French rubber-tyred metros are easily as weird and potentially failure-prone as anything involved with the Green Line, and given the challenges associated with that design, CAF seems to have hit it out of the park with Santiago's new vehicles.