by TDowling
That, and the fact that they might make permanent direct weekend service from HOB to WTC.
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trainbrain wrote:So the new PATH station will have 6 tracks when fully complete, but only 3 are used now, and it appears that the system is running fine with those 3 tracks. Hoboken trains use track 1 and Newark trains use 2 and 3. When complete, what trains will use tracks 4, 5, and 6? Are they just to increase terminal capacity to run more trains to the existing destinations?I don't have any knowledge of their plans. In the original PATH WTC station, 2 tracks were used for NWK / WTC service, 2 tracks were used for HOB / WTC service, and one track was used for lay-up or occasional movie / TV shoots. During off-hours, it was common for both services to be shifted to a single platform with 2 tracks.
I invite my girls to the mall."Uh, not exactly" too much concern within this "Feature"article about the efficient handling of trains or movement of people. I'm sure this "rat pack's" Bennie, Caddy, or Lex was parked nearby @$60 a day.
Four of us meet up on a bench outside the new Westfield World Trade Center and trade stories about mall awe, being ’90s kids hitting milestones in consumer culture. I don’t make a habit of asking “What mall did you go to growing up?” but the answers contain signifiers akin to “Where did you go to school?” (with more narrative sparkle). We go into this new mall, at the site of an old mall. It’s opening day.
The central promenade of the World Trade Center Transportation Hub is called the Oculus. Inside, columns extend skyward, linked by a thin spine of skylights. In Classical architecture, oculi were left open to the elements, and these skylights can open, too. It’s easy to compare the stunning, sun-blasted space to a cathedral. The high windows feel like clerestories; the vaulted ceiling clarifies what people mean when they say “heavenward.”
All four of us — Carrie, Juli, Lucia and I — are looking up. In front of us, the police stand on a marble perch, looking down. Carrie makes the surest architectural comparison for the space: the panopticon. The panopticon was an 18th-century design that called for open cells with a central tower, those observed never knowing exactly when they were seen. The plans inspired Foucault, who in “Discipline and Punish” probed the ways panopticism regulates behavior.
trainbrain wrote:So the new PATH station will have 6 tracks when fully complete, but only 3 are used now, and it appears that the system is running fine with those 3 tracks.Sir, I respect your opinion, but as a daily commuter on HOB-WTC line, I would say the current set up is not sufficient. During the morning rush, on 9 out of ten rides, the PATH consist will spend 1-2 minutes idling outside of the WTC station waiting for a slot. HOWEVER, the good (with a catch) news is that the new platforms are now open BUTTTT, they shut down what was the Newark bound platform with what looks like some pretty heavy repairs which seem pretty extreme for a platform that's been in service for all of 12 months. Some pics:
Head-end View wrote:Did the original (1972) WTC Terminal have these kinds of problems when it was new? Anybody here old enough to remember?No. The Hudson Terminal station was kept open and operating while the new WTC station was being built. The Hudson Terminal station was closed for the extended July 4th weekend and the new WTC station opened on July 6th.
Gilbert B Norman wrote:"Ex Libris" is a book "Passenger Trains and Terminals" by John Droege (NY, 1919) which, while describing Hudson Terminal, notes that a South Tunnel was "to be built".Parts were. There is a postcard showing a dual portal at Hudson Terminal, despite the eastbound and westbound tubes coming in very far apart. The other half of the dual portal was for a link to connect Hudson Terminal direct to Erie (later Pavonia, now Newport). There are small sections of lined tunnel passing diagnonally underneath Tunnel E (WTC -> EXP). There is no access to them. There is (or was, haven't looked since the post-9/11 rebuild) a set of "barn doors" on the left side of Tunnel F (EXP -> WTC) which led into a short section of tunnel and muck-out, approximately under the old pier line.
I don't think it ever was, but am I mistaken?