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WN&P wrote:http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/17/n ... -portland/
as predicted NGL moves on
I say Westbrook off the old Mountain.
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WN&P wrote:http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/17/n ... -portland/
as predicted NGL moves on
Cowford wrote:Remind me again why Maine ranks as the worst state in the nation in which to do business?Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.
That has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is simply a classic case of New England nimbyism.
Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.In other words, "Maine's not the worst, the whole region is like this!"
gokeefe wrote: Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.Well short of the small fact that NGL was forced into a sale by the State of Maine for the IMT expansion and then left out to dry by the same state and local leadership when it came to finding a new site at Rigby. A blind eye after Maine got what they wanted isn't exactly what I would call friendly.
Cowford wrote:Yes, if it's not white collar most up here don't want it.That has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is simply a classic case of New England nimbyism.Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.In other words, "Maine's not the worst, the whole region is like this!"
newpylong wrote:Not every town in Massachusetts is like this...but, whoo boy, way way too many of them scream exactly the same shrill note. The STB filings are flying left and right about that New England Transload thing on the Woburn Loop spur.Cowford wrote:Yes, if it's not white collar most up here don't want it.That has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is simply a classic case of New England nimbyism.Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.In other words, "Maine's not the worst, the whole region is like this!"
fogg1703 wrote:That seems like it's probably a pretty accurate assessment. NGL was, apparently, perfectly happy on West Commercial Street and probably wouldn't have had any reason or desire to leave if the state hadn't forced them to. The question is, did the state choose the Rigby site for them, or help them choose Rigby, or did NGL come up with that all on their own? Either way, one can't ignore that this whole thing was bungled from the very beginning. The ordinance against new large scale fuel storage in South Portland goes back 20+ years and wasn't a secret to anyone. How they (NGL, the state) missed that is beyond me. Don't they have well-staffed, well-funded legal departments who are capable of reading a town's Code of Ordinances?gokeefe wrote: Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.Well short of the small fact that NGL was forced into a sale by the State of Maine for the IMT expansion and then left out to dry by the same state and local leadership when it came to finding a new site at Rigby. A blind eye after Maine got what they wanted isn't exactly what I would call friendly.
Cowford wrote:I think there are many many places across the entire country that are like this ... I can imagine plenty of places, especially in densely populated areas where these facilities are difficult to find sites for.That has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is simply a classic case of New England nimbyism.Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.In other words, "Maine's not the worst, the whole region is like this!"
gokeefe wrote:Well, New England's tradition, going back to the 17th century, of a high degree of local autonomy gives NIMBYs a lot more tools for their arsenal. In places where the primary layer of local government is the county, it's a lot harder for the folks in a particular set of backyards to NIMBY things.Cowford wrote:I think there are many many places across the entire country that are like this ... I can imagine plenty of places, especially in densely populated areas where these facilities are difficult to find sites for.That has absolutely nothing to do with this. This is simply a classic case of New England nimbyism.Portsmouth did everything South Portland did and then some.In other words, "Maine's not the worst, the whole region is like this!"
newpylong wrote:The ones in Deerfield stopped working in the early 90s when the yard switches went from remote controlled to manual throw. The Guilford way. Did Rigby have any remote switches too?Rigby had power switches at both ends of the yard and on the leads when PT Tower was active.Everything went manual when the tower was closed.