• Type 7 Overhaul Program

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  by Type 7 3684
 
3645 looks like the next candidate for shipment.
  by Type 7 3684
 
I saw 3605 testing today at Riverside. 3856 came through a few moments later and didn't stop. My guess is that 3856 was tailgating to make sure nothing was wrong.
  by diburning
 
Riding one of the bulkhead seats today, I've noticed an improvement. The bulkheads that separate the stairwells from the seats now have large cutouts in the bottom to extend your feet which improves legroom. Unfortunately most of the other seats on the train still have restricted legroom due to the equipment boxes that the seats are mounted to (especially the paired seats)
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  by Type 7 3684
 
3617 has entered service, bringing the accepted list to 10.
  by PublicTransitUSA
 
At least 2 of the overhauled trains from Alstom have their slewing bearings and/or center sections installed incorrectly. The slewing bearing keeps the 2 ends of the train together. At least 1 train is missing hardware from the slewing bearing.
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  by Type 7 3684
 
I just noticed this change on NETransit:

Type 7s stored at Riverside, frame or body damage (13 cars): 3602-(A-end derailment and impact damage), 3609-(derailment damage), 3613-(accident damage), 3621-(slewing bearing, in shop to prep for Alstom), 3630-(A-end frame damage), 3650-(derailment damage), 3693-(accident damage), 3702-(carbody damage), 3703-(wrecked beyond repair), 3707-(A-end frame damage), 3711-(A-end roof damage), 3718-(slewing bearing) , 3719-(B-end frame damage)
(6 cars from this group to eventually be overhauled by Alstom, remainder expected to be used as parts source and scrapped)
I know 3609, 3621, and 3650 are to be repaired. Which other 3 will get repairs?
  by PublicTransitUSA
 
PublicTransitUSA wrote:At least 2 of the overhauled trains from Alstom have their slewing bearings and/or center sections installed incorrectly. The slewing bearing keeps the 2 ends of the train together. At least 1 train is missing hardware from the slewing bearing.
In the past, when MBTA revenue vehicles have been overhauled by anybody other than the MBTA, it has resulted in extra costs. The MBTA has to hire MBTA employees on overtime to repair the contractors' poor workmanship. The Alstom cars look pretty though.
  by Type 7 3684
 
I see that they updated the "6 out of service cars are to be repaired in be overhaul" to this:
(3 3600s and 3 3700s from this group to eventually be overhauled by Alstom, remainder expected to be used as parts source and scrapped)
So the 3700s will be overhauled after all!
  by Type 7 3684
 
I just saw this too;
Update: On 11/09/2015, the MBTA Control Board approved an option with Alstom to overhaul 17 3700 series Type 7s.
Obvoiusly, 3703 won't be overhauled, I doubt 3707 or 3719 will be too
  by Disney Guy
 
PublicTransitUSA wrote:At least 2 of the overhauled trains from Alstom have their slewing bearings and/or center sections installed incorrectly. The slewing bearing keeps the 2 ends of the train together. At least 1 train is missing hardware from the slewing bearing.
Isn't there a warranty whereby Alstom would be responsible for fixing defects?
  by Finch
 
Disney Guy wrote:
PublicTransitUSA wrote:At least 2 of the overhauled trains from Alstom have their slewing bearings and/or center sections installed incorrectly. The slewing bearing keeps the 2 ends of the train together. At least 1 train is missing hardware from the slewing bearing.
Isn't there a warranty whereby Alstom would be responsible for fixing defects?
Yes, and/or pay for the MBTA labor that is used to do the fixing. It's hard to recoup all the related costs due to the complexities of a program like this, but there is definitely a mechanism to do so.
  by Type 7 3684
 
Another update on NETransit:
Update: On 11/09/2015, the MBTA Control Board reviewed an option with Alstom to overhaul 17 3700 series Type 7s, the contract was approved at the 11/23/2015 meeting. 3700s will be overhauled once 3600s are complete..
This is no surprise here, it's nice that they will be overhauled though.
  by Type 7 3684
 
3608 is now at Riverside and is prep to ship to Hornell.
  by Type 7 3684
 
Lots of activity recently regarding the overhaul:

3622 has returned and is in testing
3628 has returned and is in testing
3605 has entered service
3608, 3645 have been sent out
  by ck4049
 
The 3622 has been back for 2 months now.
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