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beanbag wrote:Am I the only one of the opinion that they should fix the damaged dual modes before even thinking of offering this type of service?No.
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beanbag wrote:Am I the only one of the opinion that they should fix the damaged dual modes before even thinking of offering this type of service?No.
beanbag wrote:The 45s from what Ive seen arent too much slower accelerationwise than a 46 pushing 8 MLs in diesel mode. They definitely have got grunt ThirdRail... I wouldnt be so quick to discredit them.
beanbag wrote:Meant to delete that post but thanks for the clairifcation ThirdRail. I was always under the impression that the M@E was pretty mountainous, is the RVL moreso?I wouldn't call the RVL mountainous. A little undulating maybe, around Fanwood, but certainly not mountainous.
Don31 wrote:Except maybe, Whitehouse to Lebanon/Annandale? That is somewhere 1.5 to 2% grade I believe, the CNJ had helper locomotives at Whitehouse for westbound freights from what I have read. On an excursion from Jersey City to Jim Thorpe that I rode in 1965 or 1966 a CNJ diesel was added there to help the steam engine up the mountain westbound.beanbag wrote:Meant to delete that post but thanks for the clairifcation ThirdRail. I was always under the impression that the M@E was pretty mountainous, is the RVL moreso?I wouldn't call the RVL mountainous. A little undulating maybe, around Fanwood, but certainly not mountainous.
25Hz wrote:Perhaps NJT should pull a Milwaukee Road and electrify the hilly end of the route? Jus an idea...Might as well electrify the whole line if your want to wire up the hilly end.
morris&essex4ever wrote:Back a dozen years ago NJT applied for transmission service to electrify west to Raritan and from Bridgewater to West Trenton. The transmission study was done, and at that time there was adequate transmission capacity to supply the substations that would have been built. West of Raritan would presumably have continued to be diesel since electrification was not part of the study request.25Hz wrote:Perhaps NJT should pull a Milwaukee Road and electrify the hilly end of the route? Jus an idea...Might as well electrify the whole line if your want to wire up the hilly end.
morris&essex4ever wrote:Well, I disagree. If it improves the schedule and saves fuel it would be worthwhile, especially if you have these trains trying to make NYP slots on time.25Hz wrote:Perhaps NJT should pull a Milwaukee Road and electrify the hilly end of the route? Jus an idea...Might as well electrify the whole line if your want to wire up the hilly end.
Thomas wrote:Why can't Raritan Valley Line Riders make a direct ride into Manhattan--and new trans-hudson tunnels--a serious issue in the upcoming November elections?!No capacity, especially so on weekends. You'd have to cut back a NEC train to newark penn or truncate a hob div train or fiddle with the coast line trains.
Thomas wrote:Why can't Raritan Valley Line Riders make a direct ride into Manhattan--and new trans-hudson tunnels--a serious issue in the upcoming November elections?!Well, there is the pilot program that is scheduled to start next spring that will give some off peak trains direct service into NYP. Obviously there are many obstacles to allowing rush hour RVL trains to go to NYP.
25Hz wrote:I've never heard of a rail line that was electrified for a short stretch like that.morris&essex4ever wrote:Well, I disagree. If it improves the schedule and saves fuel it would be worthwhile, especially if you have these trains trying to make NYP slots on time.25Hz wrote:Perhaps NJT should pull a Milwaukee Road and electrify the hilly end of the route? Jus an idea...Might as well electrify the whole line if your want to wire up the hilly end.
The rest of the line could be done at a later date when a more serious look at full electric service is given, because at that point you would have whatever electric equipment NJT has running out there, and you would remove the fuling pad and re-configure the yards for wires etc etc etc. A short stretch wouldn't need all that.
morris&essex4ever wrote:Theyre opening up a hornets nest with that. They NEED to fix the other 45s...Thomas wrote:Why can't Raritan Valley Line Riders make a direct ride into Manhattan--and new trans-hudson tunnels--a serious issue in the upcoming November elections?!Well, there is the pilot program that is scheduled to start next spring that will give some off peak trains direct service into NYP. Obviously there are many obstacles to allowing rush hour RVL trains to go to NYP.