by nessman
What's there to negotiate? More time as you desperately try to find money to do it? Sounds like CP's patience has been stretched thin and you guys are hanging on to a thread of hope.
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traingeek8223 wrote:We on this forum as a group tend to speculate far to often.That's because the people "in the know" are too tight-lipped.
nessman wrote:traingeek8223 wrote:We on this forum as a group tend to speculate far to often.That's because the people "in the know" are too tight-lipped.
Alcoman wrote:Again, what's the big secret here? One of 4 things will happen:nessman wrote:The "people in the know" have to be tight lipped since the parties that are working directly on this project have asked them to be.traingeek8223 wrote:We on this forum as a group tend to speculate far to often.That's because the people "in the know" are too tight-lipped.
scottychaos wrote:What I am finding most annoying about this whole debate is Nessman's constant harping about it and endless negativity..Because in the 6 years since this thread began - NOTHING has happened - other than the caboose and boxcar being moved somewhere secret by some mystery man... and that people who "know" don't want to tell.
whatever will happen will happen, meanwhile, do we really need the doom and gloom update three times a day?
man..give it a rest.
Scot
nessman wrote:Then quit following it.scottychaos wrote:What I am finding most annoying about this whole debate is Nessman's constant harping about it and endless negativity..Because in the 6 years since this thread began - NOTHING has happened - other than the caboose and boxcar being moved somewhere secret by some mystery man... and that people who "know" don't want to tell.
whatever will happen will happen, meanwhile, do we really need the doom and gloom update three times a day?
man..give it a rest.
Scot
Hopeless hope and top secrets are why I hate this hobby.
RS-3 wrote:Nessman, if you "hate this hobby" maybe you should get out of it.RS-3, You hit the nail on the head....Great response!
And its not true "nothing has happened", the FA left. And you don't know what is and isn't happening. Just because you are not in the loop doesn't mean nothing is happening. And out of curiosity, just why do you care so much?
RS
Noel Weaver wrote:It is plainly evident that the folks in control here (if there are any in control) do not care or at least have no resources to do anything about the situation. I agree with Nessman, the equipment is likely to be scrapped and probably before too much longer. If I were in charge on the CP it would have probably been gone by now. Yes it is a shame for this to happen but the stuff is too far gone for a reasonable restoration and there are more examples of this type equipment preserved by people who really care about it and in decent presentable condition which is lacking here. I can remember equipment in far better condition and much more significant than this being scrapped, anybody remember GTW 5629 or C.B. & Q. 5632?Noel,
Noel Weaver
Ford GP wrote:Noel,The "new generation" of players have been singing the same song as the old generation - and yet nothing has been done. I can't speak of the stuff that's been removed already since again, that's a top-secret that no one wants to talk about. As has been said before - it will take a LOT of money to save any of that... $45,000 to move one piece by crane to an active siding - even 10 feet away. $45,000 is the scrap value for a locomotive these days.
Its quite possible that new generations of players, and opportunities may be presenting themselves. Not necessarily the same old figures. Certainly the examples you cite are tragic, and a result of one mans actions. It could be these locomotives are beyond help, I dont know, but nothing is beyond restoration given the resources.
I think the thing I find most odd is your statement that if you were in charge of CP you would have already scrapped them. What I would have expected to hear is that if you were in charge you would have helped find a way to preserve them. I dont get it.