• CMSL service Rio Grande to Cape May

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Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey

Moderator: David

  by south jersey trains
 
I believe I read it in the AC Press recently .They said a portion of the track will be removed for the pipeline.The article was about cleaner air and how this plant will have more compacity.
  by Ken W2KB
 
Trainlawyer wrote:The plant is being converted to natural gas over the next few years. The pipe is going to use its own right-of-way from Millville. There is no plan to remove the railroad. Would you mind telling us where you read that?

GME
The station's last coal unit is scheduled for shut down not later than May of 2015. The cost to South Jersey Gas to acquire a new right of way for the pipeline would be substantial. Easements over existing rail or electric transmission rights of way are far less costly, and avoid the need for eminent domain, some nimbys, wetlands issues, Pinelands Commission issues, etc. The NJBPU also prefers using existing rights of way (far less political sensitivity). My educated guess is that South Jersey will for those reasons want to use the rail right of way, at least from Tuckahoe, for those reasons. Given, if I am correct that there are no other customers on the line, I suspect that the railroad will be willing to negotiate.
  by alewifebp
 
No real reason it can't be shared. I believe in Roxbury, NY, at the end of the U&D track, they have a NYC water tunnel running under the tracks for some portion. That portion is built to accommodate the potential for limited rail service to run over that.
  by Ken W2KB
 
alewifebp wrote:No real reason it can't be shared. I believe in Roxbury, NY, at the end of the U&D track, they have a NYC water tunnel running under the tracks for some portion. That portion is built to accommodate the potential for limited rail service to run over that.
Agree that rights of way if wide enough can be shared and commonly are. However, especially with hazmat pipelines such as natural gas, sharing may increase construction and maintenance costs for both pipeline and railroad. From what I understand the line from Tuckahoe to the generating station does not have any other freight business, and is minimally maintained for the coal trains. The railroad may want to sell the property to avoid maintenance, taxes, potential tort liability, and so forth once the coal business disappears. There is also a need for reinforcement of electric transmission in that area; it is possible that Atlantic City Electric might find the right of way attractive as well. In either case it may be possible to preserve the potential for reuse as a rail line if the right of way is wide enough.
  by dlagrua
 
I guess the real question is what can be done in 2013 to restore the damaged trackage to get the CMSL moving South again? Does this terrible act of vandalism signal a permanent end to train service to Cape May or is there a solution? Several years back there were track crews working to restore the line when it was damaged so I hope that we will see this again. Only time will tell.
  by glennk419
 
Looks like Motormouth Mike Voll got his signs....
State Department of Transportation (DOT) Commissioner Jim S. Simpson has approved Lower Township’s request for “Exempt Crossing” status for the railroad crossings at Breakwater and Tabernacle roads between Seashore Road and Route 9.
Full story: http://www.capemaycountyherald.com/arti ... c-comments
  by bystander
 
Are they going aftre the scap guy for the repair to the tracks? If the other guys are broke, in jail, he shouyld pay.
  by glennk419
 
JimBoylan wrote:How do we change the title of this discussion to 2013?
I believe either a moderator or the original poster needs to do that.
  by northjerseybuff
 
Any plans to run into Cape May this year?
  by bluedash2
 
As an FYI,the Saturday May 11 trips are on. The Sunday May 12th trips are not. The VRA who is running this trip made the decision to cancel Sunday. I was told few tickets were even sold for Sunday. It being Mother's Day probably hurt plus a lot of railfans will be out of town for the National Train Day displays.
  by bluedash2
 
northjerseybuff wrote:Any plans to run into Cape May this year?
Yes. As of now, they are putting all of their efforts to get into Cape May sometime this summer. That track theft really hurt though.
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