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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby DutchRailnut » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:38 pm

Told you so, told you so, told you told you told you so .......
If Conductors are in charge, why are they promoted to be Engineer???

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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby Roadgeek Adam » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:47 pm

This is the equipment I saw (photo taken by myself):

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As noted, they did not let anyone on.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby ebtmikado » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:57 am

That is a test train.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby Roadgeek Adam » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:04 am

I figured as much, but it was an interesting experience.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby lordsigma12345 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:12 pm

MassDOT and Amtrak finally released the bid solicitation for improvements at Springfield, MA station. These improvements complement the recent project by the city to restore the historic Union Station building by adding a high level platform. The project will be done in concert with Amtrak in-house personnel with the awarded contractor doing the platform work, and Amtrak crews doing the track 4 and 6 repositioning work.

Drawings are available here:
https://www.commbuys.com/bso/external/b ... entUrl=bid
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby Kilo Echo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:26 pm

Will one platform suffice?
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby Backshophoss » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:10 pm

Should be OK for now since it will be awhile before the service ramps up.
Track 6 is where 448/449 (Lake Shore Ltd) stops.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby lordsigma12345 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:01 pm

While it can be assumed that with the new platform C that tracks 4 and 6 will now be the primary tracks to make ADA accessibility easier, track 8 and its low level platform D (closest platform to the current entrance) will also remain in service for overflow though no upgrades to it are currently planned. Trains 448/449 use the far platforms A and B and I'm assuming that will remain unchanged as allowing the LSL to use tracks 4, 6, and 8 would require a new switching connection between the B&A and Amtrak tracks west of the platforms - what is not yet clear is how passengers of the LSL will enter after work is complete - if they will still enter via platform D and then cross the tracks as they do now or if they will enter from the second floor of the new union station. If any additional platform work isto be done down the road I would assume it would be platform D which would then make all the tracks used by the Hartford Line, Shuttles, Regionals, and Vermonter ADA accessible. But apparently this will suffice for all currently planned service.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby nomis » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:23 pm

Per a CDOT press release, CTrail Hartford Line Rail Service Scheduled to Launch June 16 & Commemorative Inaugural Event to be Held Friday, June 15
The Connecticut Department of Transportation (CTDOT) today announced it will launch the Hartford Line rail service with an inaugural event on Friday, June 15. Following the commemorative event, free weekend train service will operate on Saturday and Sunday, June 16 and 17. Full, expanded weekday service will begin on June 18 with trains running approximately every 45 minutes during the morning and evening peak periods. A total of 17 trains a day will operate between New Haven and Hartford and 12 trains will operate daily between Hartford and Springfield, Massachusetts. The line will provide direct or connecting service to New York City, Boston and Vermont.

“This expanded service will transform travel options in the corridor between New Haven and Springfield, Massachusetts, and it will be a catalyst for economic development, and business and recreational travel.” said CTDOT Commissioner James P. Redeker. “Getting new service on this line has been a monumental undertaking that has taken years of intense coordination to ensure the successful opening of service. I want to commend the team that has made this a reality. Even before the commencement of service, the State’s investment has already attracted new commercial and residential development and has become the latest engine driving Connecticut’s economy.”

CTDOT managed the full reconstruction of the rail line, including all new ballast, track, bridges, culverts, signals and grade-crossings. New train stations and parking have been constructed in Wallingford, Meriden and Berlin. Trains will be able to operate at speeds as high as 110 miles an hour, and a trip from Springfield to New Haven will take 81 minutes. The project was financed by three federal grants and state funds.

“The Hartford Line will provide the most frequent train service delivered to date under the Federal Railroad Administration intercity passenger rail grant programs begun in the Obama administration. I commend the team at the DOT for the extraordinary job they have done to make what was once just a dream become a reality, Commissioner Redeker said. “The delivery of this new rail service is a model for the country and Connecticut should take immense pride in this achievement and celebrate not just the completion of the construction, but the beginning of a bright new transportation and economic development future for the state.”

Information about the new train schedules and fares can be found at http://www.hartfordline.com. Details of the June 15 event will be released in coming weeks.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby lordsigma12345 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:47 pm

lordsigma12345 wrote:MassDOT and Amtrak finally released the bid solicitation for improvements at Springfield, MA station. These improvements complement the recent project by the city to restore the historic Union Station building by adding a high level platform. The project will be done in concert with Amtrak in-house personnel with the awarded contractor doing the platform work, and Amtrak crews doing the track 4 and 6 repositioning work.

Drawings are available here:
https://www.commbuys.com/bso/external/b ... entUrl=bid


Just to add - some preliminary work has already been completed - the elevator shaft, pit, tunnel electrical room, and elevator machine room have been partially constructed by the contractors who did the main Union Station rehab.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby daybeers » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:14 pm

I'm not surprised in the slightest to see this new date, especially since the DOT said the last of the four new locomotives won't be ready until June. What I don't get is why they're still claiming the trains will run at 110 mph. Isn't that in the next phase, when new equipment will be ordered and there will be more trains offered over the entire route?
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby nomis » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:26 pm

It's since the shuttles will be able to reach speeds of 110mph on the line, and your CDOT ticket is cross-honored.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby daybeers » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:33 pm

I know Amtrak will be cross-honoring, but when did they upgrade the Class 4 track to Class 6? There definitely wasn't enough money in the budget to do that.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby Ridgefielder » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:18 pm

Think Class 4 is 110mph max. Class 6 is >150mph.
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Re: Hartford Line CtDOT New Haven-Springfield - NHHS

Postby NH2060 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:46 pm

Class 4 is 80mph. Class 6 is 110. Class 8 is 150.
http://trn.trains.com/railroads/abcs-of ... ifications

As for there being not enough money in the budget to upgrade to Class 6 are you kidding me?? If $769 Million is not enough to add 15-20(?) miles of double iron including small bridges, build only 3 new stations, upgrade the signal system, and raise the top speed to 110 where possible I don't know what amount would be. A good portion of the line will be good for 110mph, if not 90. It's a relatively straight route between New Haven and Hartford with some curvature between Wallingford and Meriden and between Berlin and Newington. And where there are curves they're pretty wide in comparison to the Shore Line.
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