Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby RCman2626 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:24 pm

Amtrak has not gotten rock out of Glen Mills since November 2011. NS has been bringing it in from other locations. We still are unsure of the future of the Glen Mills Connector, but as of right now it is still in service with excepted status.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby BuddSilverliner269 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:06 am

Correct. Septa is trying to strong arm Amtrak to pay for track work between Elwyn and Glen Mills to continue running our trains there. Funny thing is, isn't this track suppose to be upgraded anyways when trains start running to Wawa? Hmmm
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby jb9152 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:12 am

BuddSilverliner269 wrote:Correct. Septa is trying to strong arm Amtrak to pay for track work between Elwyn and Glen Mills to continue running our trains there. Funny thing is, isn't this track suppose to be upgraded anyways when trains start running to Wawa? Hmmm


Yeah, but it's always better when you can get someone else to pay for it!
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby RCman2626 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:48 pm

We are caught in the middle of some dirty politics. If the track is taken out of service for any reason, we are landlocked in West Chester (meaning no more fan trips, no more new equipment deliveries and zero hopes for freight service to West Chester). We hope it does not come to that...

Septa has put a $1.5 million price tag on repairs to the Connector just to bring it up to Class I standards. This has come up at many meetings with Septa, Senator Toomey's office as well as our state senators. Unfortunately no party is coming up with funds for this project.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby SEPTAR2Newark » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:54 pm

RCman2626 wrote:We are caught in the middle of some dirty politics. If the track is taken out of service for any reason, we are landlocked in West Chester (meaning no more fan trips, no more new equipment deliveries and zero hopes for freight service to West Chester). We hope it does not come to that...

Septa has put a $1.5 million price tag on repairs to the Connector just to bring it up to Class I standards. This has come up at many meetings with Septa, Senator Toomey's office as well as our state senators. Unfortunately no party is coming up with funds for this project.


Wasn't Elywn to Lenni rebuilt around 2010-2011 or so? I know that work was suppose to be part of the Wawa expansion and the money dried out. Funny thing is recently rebuilt track has to be rebuilt again smh, more proof that if it isn't in service, Septa won't maintain it.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby RCman2626 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:01 am

Yes the railroad was stabilized quite extensively in 2009-2010 between S. Elwyn and Lenni with new drainage, retaining walls, ties, ballast and rail where needed. IMO it is more of a political situation than anything. I've run on that railroad. It is not by any means in bad condition. Is it suitable for regular passenger service, absolutely not. Can it handle freight trains at 10 mph, yes. Its all about money and resources.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby jonnhrr » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:39 pm

A slightly related question - what is the status of the service formerly known as R3 extension to Wawa ? Is work still ongoing or is it suspended?

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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby RCman2626 » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:26 am

I received word that multiple pieces of track equipment were spotted in and around the Lenni building area. As of Sunday evening all of the equipment was gone, but it was clearly noticeable that the rust was knocked off the rail. No apparent work started. Does anyone have information about this?
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby Jerr » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:27 am

The Amtrak ballast train just passed Wallingford on the R3 ten minutes ago. They have been running almost every night. I expect she will return thru around 130am
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby Clearfield » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:31 am

jonnhrr wrote:A slightly related question - what is the status of the service formerly known as R3 extension to Wawa ? Is work still ongoing or is it suspended?

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Currently suspended.

Per SEPTA, "A companion project addressed critical track bed stabilization improvements along the route. Catenary/Signal/Track Improvements, Bridge Replacements/Rehabilitation, and the new Station and Parking Deck will advance in concurrent construction phases beginning in 2017."
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby NorthPennLimited » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:46 am

Jerr wrote:The Amtrak ballast train just passed Wallingford on the R3 ten minutes ago. They have been running almost every night. I expect she will return thru around 130am


Probably a wire train or a slippery rail washer.

The only other freight on that line is the Amoroso shifter, and that's on borrowed time. The Inky had a story last year Conrail and Jersey made a sweetheart deal to move them across the river.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby Quinn » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:56 am

NorthPennLimited wrote:Probably a wire train or a slippery rail washer.


Agreed. Spotted one on the return trip tonight about 1:30~1:45ish coming through Clifton.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby Jerr » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:21 pm

Now that the Crum Creek Viaduct is complete and service is restored on the R3 (Media / Elwyn) does anyone know if the Amtrak Ballast Train will resume it's late night runs to the Glen Mills Quarry ??
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby Quinn » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:26 pm

I believe the track out to Glen Mills is still listed as excepted, and the ballast is all trucked out.
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Re: Ballast Train on R3 Elwyn

Postby Sotheast PA Railfan » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:03 am

A question I have been wondering as of lately. Someone recently told me that once a month SEPTA ran an MOW Train out to Glen Mills to check the track to make sure it is still intact and is good. Is that true?
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