Utica Branch Discussion Thread

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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby JTBernier » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:38 am

ut-1 wrote:Here's a video I took showing flooding in South Utica; the NYS&W has a bridge over the Sauquoit approx 1/2 mile south of the bridge shown in the video. There's also an ex-NYO&W bridge about the same distance to the north, used to reach a customer in New Hartford. I'm sure those bridges will be closely inspected before a train is allowed to cross them.


Holy moly!
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ricky » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:43 am

Today in evening sun their news on update about railroad crossings.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby milkman » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:02 pm

ricky wrote:Today in evening sun their news on update about railroad crossings.


http://www.evesun.com/news/stories/2017 ... ed-tracks/
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby NYS&W142Fan » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:41 pm

Can someone please provide the full story, not all of us have a subscription to the Paper.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby Rail Trails Fail » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:52 pm

Any update on the county finding business for this line?
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby milkman » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:06 pm

Rail Trails Fail wrote:Any update on the county finding business for this line?


I haven't heard anything and I keep checking the paper, but they are obviously getting the line ready, we see MOW vehicles going up and down the line a lot.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ricky » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:20 pm

milkman wrote:
Rail Trails Fail wrote:Any update on the county finding business for this line?


I haven't heard anything and I keep checking the paper, but they are obviously getting the line ready, we see MOW vehicles going up and down the line a lot.
what are mow vehicles for? Inspect tracks ?
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby milkman » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:13 am

Correct, to inspect and repair.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ut-1 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:45 pm

Here are a few photos taken today:

1. Running up Paris Hill's 1.8% grade, Cassville.

2. Passing Lincoln-Davies Lumber Co, Paris Station.

3. At the crest of Paris Hill, Paris Station/Marshall.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby JTBernier » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:20 am

Running light?


ut-1 wrote:Here are a few photos taken today:

1. Running up Paris Hill's 1.8% grade, Cassville.

2. Passing Lincoln-Davies Lumber Co, Paris Station.

3. At the crest of Paris Hill, Paris Station/Marshall.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ut-1 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:28 pm

JT Bernier asked, "Running light?"

Yes, they picked up 8 cars (7 covered hoppers & 1 tanker) in Sangerfield then returned to Utica.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby ricky » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:08 pm

Any news on fix these crossing gates before the winter gets here
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby lvrr325 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:09 am

I'm somewhat surprised they're not running a handful of cars down to Binghamton themselves, although with the engine facility gone there's no need to move power in and out anymore.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby JoeCollege » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:51 pm

lvrr325 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised they're not running a handful of cars down to Binghamton themselves, although with the engine facility gone there's no need to move power in and out anymore.


I'd think some customers in Utica would have demanded as much, maybe seeking competitive rates from NS connection rather than go CSX to Syracuse and down. And there was speculation that maybe CSX changes would eliminate Utica interchange. Neither seems to have happened, and NYSW has shown little interest from what I can tell in capturing any traffic south of Sangerfield- the old Baillie's traffic that was transloaded at Sherburne now goes container on trucks to Jersey or DeWitt from what I heard.
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Re: Utica Branch Discussion Thread

Postby johnpbarlow » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:37 am

JoeCollege wrote:
lvrr325 wrote:I'm somewhat surprised they're not running a handful of cars down to Binghamton themselves, although with the engine facility gone there's no need to move power in and out anymore.


I'd think some customers in Utica would have demanded as much, maybe seeking competitive rates from NS connection rather than go CSX to Syracuse and down. And there was speculation that maybe CSX changes would eliminate Utica interchange. Neither seems to have happened, and NYSW has shown little interest from what I can tell in capturing any traffic south of Sangerfield- the old Baillie's traffic that was transloaded at Sherburne now goes container on trucks to Jersey or DeWitt from what I heard.


Is the CSX-NYSW car exchange at Utica an interchange between the two RRs or does NYSW have haulage rights over CSX between Syracuse and Utica? Much earlier in this lengthy thread, someone said CSX-NYSW interchange was at Syracuse and prior to the 2006 embargo of the Utica line, CSX traffic for NYSW customers at Utica was routed Syracuse-Binghamton-Utica. So if Syracuse-Utica via CSX is a haulage agreement, NYSW's Utica customers could theoretically negotiate a Utica-Syracuse-Binghamton to/from NS shipping arrangement today without using the Utica branch.
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