Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby Ridgefielder » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:21 pm

gokeefe wrote:Fantastic coverage. An interesting question comes to mind:

The article states this is the first time in 100 years that a privately owned and operated passenger rail service has started up. I would be interested to know what their benchmark was.

Could they possibly be referring to the New York, Westchester & Boston? That's the only thing I can think of that's a) a true railroad and b) fits the ~1917 time frame.
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby chrsjrcj » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:24 am

What are commuter rail agencies typically classified as? That is what Brightline is most similar to.
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby OrangeGrove » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:17 am

Brightline operations at launch will indeed resemble a commuter agency, and largely remain so if the Orlando extension never happens, though I don't think that's how they see themselves and certainly not how they want to be portrayed and marketed.

As for the first "privately owned and operated passenger rail service" for 100 years, that's only true if you do not consider the original Auto-Train Corporation to be either passenger service or privately owned (some tourist operations possibly blur the definition somewhat, or even the short lived Texas-Mexican operation). But Auto-Train clearly meets the criteria.
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby gokeefe » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:15 pm

Very fair point there. I think the implication was "railroad owned and operated".
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby chaz » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:20 pm

Here are links to 6 lists of named passenger trains in the US...sorted alphabetically. Surely, one of these qualifies as a privately funded passenger train within the last 100 years. Warning: this is addictive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_named_passenger_trains#United_States
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby Ridgefielder » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:44 am

They certainly do. However, I don't think any of these services were started from scratch, with new stations, new rolling stock and new track. They're mostly upgrades of existing services with new equipment.

Only things that were genuinely started completely from scratch that I can think of are the NYW&B, the Philadelphia & Western, and the Wabash-Pittsburgh Terminal. Am I missing others?
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby gokeefe » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:03 pm

I hadn't considered the fact that that Brightline truly is "from scratch" with new stations and rolling stock all at the same time. For intercity passenger service I'm actually surprised there are any examples at all in the 20th century.
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Re: Brightline aka All Aboard Florida Orlando - Miami FL FEC

Postby chaz » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:27 am

Michael Reininger, Executive Director of Florida East Coast Industries wrote a letter to the editor of the TCPalm newspapers about proposed, anti-railroad legislation.

http://www.tcpalm.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/03/20/guest-column-rail-act-simply-anti-growth-nimbyism/99309498/
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