Amtrak HHP-8 Locomotives

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Amtrak HHP-8 Locomotives

Postby Eric Kreszl » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:23 pm

Hello,

Does anyone have any information regarding these locomotives and photos?


If so please let me know,

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Postby Irish Chieftain » Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:47 pm

Information:
    Built by Bombardier/Alstom and entered service in '99
    8,000 horsepower
    Equipped with automatic variable-tap transformers (can operate under 11.5 kV 25Hz, 12kV 60Hz and 25kV 60Hz AC OHLE)
    125 mph top speed; Tier I crashworthiness compliant
    Rumored to be able to pull 16 cars (i.e match the E60CP's pulling power); only been witnessed pulling 14 cars
    (personal opinion) Very ugly
    Originally had decals reading "Acela"; replaced with "Amtrak" decals
    Only other operator is Maryland Rail Commuter (MARC)
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Postby AEM7AC920 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:24 am

If you google the things you are looking for, you will find all the pics you need.
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Postby shadyjay » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:54 pm

I noticed that two HHP-8s which were stored out of service (including 664? which was OOS for over a year and was stored) are now back on the active roster, but under repair. This information courtesy of gobytrain.us. Perhaps Amtrak had to wait until they assumed responsibility of these locomotives (from the consortium) before they repaired them? Thoughts or comments?

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Postby Eric Kreszl » Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:17 pm

I took some photos of the HHP-8's Myself.

http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net ... ?id=610576

http://erickreszl.rrpicturearchives.net ... ?id=610582


Let me tell you THOSE LOCOMOTIVES ARE FAST!!!!!

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Postby sixty-six » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:36 pm

No faster than the AEM-7s
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Postby amtrakhogger » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:55 pm

Too much HP for the weight=too much wheel slip, especially when it
is raining! Meatballs are little better.
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Re: HHP8

Postby travelinjack » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:08 pm

jimzim66 wrote:No faster than the AEM-7s


Although maximum speeds are limited to 125 MPH for both, when pulling an equal load, the HHP-8 does accelerate faster. Of course I mean on dry rail.

amtrakhogger wrote:Too much HP for the weight=too much wheel slip, especially when it
is raining! Meatballs are little better.


I couldn't agree more with this. My 2 biggest complaints about the HHP-8's are the wheel slip and the lack of visibility.
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Postby Tadman » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:47 am

I always wondered about the visibility issue - I notice the HHP8 probably has the visibility of a submarine captain looking through a periscope, and it also looks like P42 and Acela visibility is about the same - but I've never actually operated or been in the cab of any, so how do they stack up? I'm mostly an MU rider, so I have good perspective there, and I ride the occasional geep or goat around. I'm used to very good visibility, in other words.
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Postby Eric Kreszl » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:08 am

I agree with you. I always wondered about the Visibilty of the the HHP-8 Electric locomotives. It would be good to see a shot of the locomotive cabs ineterior.

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Postby travelinjack » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:29 pm

The cabs of the Acela and HHP-8 are identical. There are some differences in controls obviously. (tilt control, independent brake to name a few). Your visibility is limited to what's right in front of you. I realize that the majority of the time, that is what is most important. There are times though when a more "panoramic" view would be helpful. Especially making a station stop with an HHP-8. "Marks" are harder to see.

As far as the P-42's are concearned, they aren't quite as bad. Still not as good as the near "fish bowl" view of the AEM-7 though.
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Postby shadyjay » Tue May 22, 2007 8:19 pm

According to the logs on www.gobytrain.us....
the long stored out of service HHP-8 #663 which was stored a few years ago is now back in service. This leaves just #664 as being out of service, but under repair.
That's a good sign.
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Postby acela 2036 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:33 am

It seems that the HHP8's will stay down south mostly. You dont see that many up north, usually on the weekends, they will put HHP8's on regional trains to Boston.
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Postby TomNelligan » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:05 am

How's their reliability these days? I read elsewhere about one dying in Metro North territory on Memorial Day and stranding a holiday trainfull of passengers for several hours.
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