Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:26 am

Backshophoss wrote:The Weather Channel calls this storm Harper,it about to hit Chicago..

That's a new one, Mr. Backshop; naming winter storms. What else will come from "weathertainment"?

6" on the ground and slightly increasing. The Thanksgiving weekend ice storm was far worse; 300K power outages. I only had a dangling cable.

On a rail related note, anyone remember the tragic movie "The Ice Storm"? While the plot was focused on "pre-metoo" '70's morals, or lack thereof, it did have some
authentic rail scenes and was based on fact. Ask Mr. Curtin; he was there.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby east point » Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:46 am

Amtrak appears that it can provide service on its well traveled routes. Extra equipment can be parked to provide some place to rest . As well straight lining the NEC WASH - NYP so switches will not need to be operated except at a few strategic locations.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby Backshophoss » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:36 pm

Believe the Weather Channel, started naming winter storms a few years back,has turned into a handy way to reference each winter season's major storms.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby Arborwayfan » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:11 pm

The busiest routes are also the ones with the most stations people can walk to or take the subway to. If practically everyone drives to the station, running the train when the roads are closed is problematic.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby benboston » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:56 pm

Arborwayfan wrote:The busiest routes are also the ones with the most stations people can walk to or take the subway to. If practically everyone drives to the station, running the train when the roads are closed is problematic.


Exactly why I don't get the thinking behind canceling trains on the NEC.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby Backshophoss » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:43 am

The forecast for tonight is snow-rain-snow,there's a good chance for ice build up along the rails on the NEC to the point of derailing trains.
Amtrak is not letting Acela sets travel east of Sunnyside yard.
Figure on some Catenary damage/power outages overnight as well.
MN will have their share of storm related problems as well.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby daybeers » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:54 am

I feel like a large portion of the reasoning behind the cancellations over the past couple years are due to legal issues.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby JimBoylan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:22 pm

And I feel like a large portion of the reasoning behind the cancellations over the past couple years are due to "Bean Counters". If Amtrak is loosing money, then every cancelled train saves some, even if just on fuel and Café supplies!
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby n2cbo » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:29 pm

daybeers wrote:I feel like a large portion of the reasoning behind the cancellations over the past couple of years are due to legal issues.


Boy have things changed since the railroad's heyday... Now a couple of bats making whoopie in a tree stops dead the construction of a railroad (NJ Cutoff), and the trains stop running because of a little snow (I mean I could see shutting down for 3-4 feet of snow, but shutting down even before the snow gets here???).
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby lordsigma12345 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:01 pm

Don’t get some of the logic. They canceled many but not all service north of NYP. Locally they ran all the Springfield Shuttles but with the NHV connections canceled were likely dead.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby Jeff Smith » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:57 pm

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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby Dick H » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:55 pm

"Things that have changed" regarding running passenger trains during storms.
The number of track workers to take care of switch problems and signal issues
and keep stations clear and safe are a small fraction of the numbers in the
"old days" There were no overhead wires between New Haven and Boston.
Many public venues, businesses, schools and the like shut down and public'
officials urge people to stay home, which greatly cuts the number of passengers
in the first place. Many public and private bus companies shut down, also.

Times have changed...
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby NHV 669 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:28 am

Vermonter didn't leave St. A until just after 11 today.
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Stuck in the midddle of multiple abandonments.
Sometimes, you gotta drive for several hours in the middle of the night, to see the local railroad in action.
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Re: Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby John_Perkowski » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:51 pm

The Central and the Pennsylvania both had wedge snowplows which survived into Conrail

How much snow removal capacity do NS, CSXT, and Amtrak have today?
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Tom M » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:48 pm

Backshophoss wrote: ...with a possibility of a ice crust on top!
Some states will at that point close all roads!

I've lived in New England, not exactly a tropical paradise, for a long time. The closest thing to a state closing all roads that I can recall is Gov. Dukakis' response to the Blizzard of '78. That was a response, not an action taken in advance of the first snowflake, and restricted travel to those who had a need to travel. All roads were not closed. Over the past weekend Massachusetts government officials were advising people to stay off the roads and "take public transportation." Apparently they weren't aware that the public transportation people were already planning to stay at home next to the fire. Admirably, NNEPRA chose to maintain the Downeaster schedule. That proved to be a wise choice, with the storm producing far fewer problems than predicted. New England weather is notoriously unpredictable. Wait and see is often better than planning for the sky to fall every time snow is predicted.
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