Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

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Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby east point » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:28 pm

Winter time cancellations this weekend here is partial list from Amtrak's service notice!.

Canceled service for Saturday, Jan. 19, and Sunday, Jan. 20, includes:
Capitol Limited (Chicago – Washington, D.C.): Trains 29, 30
Lake Shore Limited (Chicago – New York/Boston): Trains 49, 449, 48, 448
Cardinal (Chicago – New York), Train 50 on Jan. 19 and Train 51 on Jan. 20 between New York and Indianapolis.

Modified service for Sunday, Jan. 20, includes:
Acela Express service (Boston – New York – Washington, D.C.): Trains 2250, 2254, 2249, 2251, 2253 will not operate only between New York and Boston. Train 2290 is canceled entirely.
Northeast Regional service (Boston – New York – Washington, D.C.): Trains 160,164, 88,161,135,167 will not operate only between New York and Boston.
Keystone Service (New York – Philadelphia – Harrisburg): Trains 662, 664, 672, 661, 667, 671 are canceled.
Pennsylvanian service (New York – Philadelphia – Harrisburg – Pittsburgh): Trains 42 & 43 are canceled.
Vermonter (St. Albans, Vt. – New York – Washington, D.C.): Trains 54, 57 are not operating between St. Albans, Vt. and New Haven, Conn.
Northeast Corridor service between New York and Washington, D.C., and points south will continue to operate as scheduled.
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby benboston » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:16 pm

Is there a reason behind this?
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby east point » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 pm

benboston wrote:Is there a reason behind this?



Major snow storm coming with probable road closures to all but essential personell. RR personell do not count
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby mtuandrew » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 pm

Amtrak doesn’t work under the same rules or same funding schedule as the Federal government executive agencies, so its people are still on the job. Some of those personnel are undoubtedly essential for Amtrak and have to be there (at least some people at CTEC at least, and some maintainers and crews).
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Acela150 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:39 am

east point wrote:
benboston wrote:Is there a reason behind this?



Major snow storm coming with probable road closures to all but essential personell. RR personell do not count


Yeah??? Tell that to NS who gave me a letter from the FRA that stated I was essential personnel during a snowstorm 3 years ago.
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby benboston » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:40 am

Shouldn't they provide rail service, even in the snow...
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Allouette » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:30 am

benboston wrote:Shouldn't they provide rail service, even in the snow...

It's not quite that simple in the modern era. The issue is what happens to passengers before they board and after they leave the train. Most "stations" on the affected trains are little more than shelters, many with no restrooms, and some in locations that are not near major highways. Even if they're heated and lit they're often staffed by volunteers. Assuming the platforms are plowed (not a certainty), dropping passengers off at some of the locations would be at best questionable.
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:36 pm

The Weather Channel calls this storm Harper,it about to hit Chicago,did leave a pile of snow over Donner Pass and the upper midwest US!
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby east point » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:56 pm

Acela150 wrote:[

Yeah??? Tell that to NS who gave me a letter from the FRA that stated I was essential personnel during a snowstorm 3 years ago.



But were you T&E? Even here our last snow jam they were not allowed onto the roads!
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby jonnhrr » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:16 pm

Interesting that they didn't cancel the Downeasters for Sunday, even though Maine is supposed to get 12 - 24 inches of snow inland, a little less along the coast.
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby benboston » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:34 pm

Allouette wrote:
benboston wrote:Shouldn't they provide rail service, even in the snow...

It's not quite that simple in the modern era. The issue is what happens to passengers before they board and after they leave the train. Most "stations" on the affected trains are little more than shelters, many with no restrooms, and some in locations that are not near major highways. Even if they're heated and lit they're often staffed by volunteers. Assuming the platforms are plowed (not a certainty), dropping passengers off at some of the locations would be at best questionable.


Most stations along the NEC are adequately sheltered.
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Tom M » Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:31 pm

Quite frankly, I don't get it. It wasn't so long ago that passenger rail, both Amtrak and commuter, would see a surge in business when a winter storm was forecast. People would leave their cars at home and take the train, because the train would get through. More recently, Amtrak would start canceling trains as the snow built up. Now, trains are being canceled in advance of falling snow. I don't buy the argument that they're afraid of leaving passengers stranded on the platform with no one to pick them up.
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby Backshophoss » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:06 pm

In some cases the Host RR has shut down due to unsafe conditions, as CSX is prone to do between Buffalo and Cleveland.
Parts of the east coast will deal with forecasted Snow-Rain-Snow overniight Sunday with a possibility of a ice crust on top!
Some states will at that point close all roads!
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Re: Restricted travel NEC and NYP - CHI

Postby ryanov » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:14 am

I took Amtrak home from Boston after winter storm Nemo, the morning after it hit. Took Acela. It was 5 minutes late at my destination. Sure am glad they ran.
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Winter Storm Harper 2019 Service Changes

Postby Jeff Smith » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:30 am

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