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New Heritage unit addition

Postby amtrakhogger » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:27 am

It looks like Amtrak will have an additional Heritage unit for the fleet. SW1000R 794 was spotted outside Delaware Car Co. on 6/12 in Washington Terminal blue paint and lettering. Sorry, no picture.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby mmi16 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:28 pm

Without a picture it didn't happen!
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby Gilbert B Norman » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:46 pm

Here you go, Mr. MMI

https://goo.gl/images/MfAjLr
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby Backshophoss » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:03 pm

Hopefully a lot cleaner then when that pic was taken! :P
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby SouthernRailway » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:41 am

I suspect that Amtrak is so dead-set on promoting its own heritage and identity that it would never do this, and freight railroads might not want to license their intellectual property to Amtrak, but:

Wouldn't it be neat if Amtrak had heritage locomotives like freight railroads do, painted in liveries of Amtrak's predecessors?

For example, the Lake Shore Limited could be led by a locomotive in NY Central paint, the Crescent could be led by a locomotive in Southern Railway paint; and an Acela Express could be in Penn Central livery?

I don't think it would ever happen, but it would be neat if it did.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby F-line to Dudley via Park » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:31 am

Well...you've got the Heritage-paint Gennie roaming out there for a few years now, so that already is happening. Keep in mind we're only 4 years away from AMTK's 50th anniversary, so the opportunity to throw a real paint-party extravaganza is coming pretty soon.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby electricron » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:44 am

Is it a new addition to the fleet? Amtrak has owned 10 SW1000R switchers since 1994.

SW1000R #790-799
Type: EMD SW1000R Diesel
Built: EMD 1950 (790 to 794, 796 to 799 as SW9, 795 as SW1200)
Rebuilt: National Railway Equipment 1994 as SW1000R
Engine: 1,000 hp Diesel
Transmission: Electric
Acquired by Amtrak 1994 from MKT, INS, SOO, PLE and B+O. Briefly numbered as 700 to 709 then renumbered to 790 to 799.

790 G SU CHI Chicago IL, stored
791 G SU CHI Chicago IL, stored
792 G SW WAS Washington DC
793 G SW WAS Washington DC
794 G SU OAK Oakland CA, stored
795 G SU LAX Los Angeles CA, stored
796 G SW WAS Washington DC
797 G SW WAS Washington DC
798 G SW WAS Washington DC
799 G SW WAS Washington DC

It does appear that 794 is no longer stored in Oakland and has been recently refurbished and returned to the active fleet. But I wouldn't call that a "new" addition to the fleet.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby amtrakhogger » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:04 am

No, not an addition to the general fleet, but rather an addition to the "Heritage" fleet.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby mtuandrew » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:44 pm

I mean, I'd rather have a Heritage Penn Station and Heritage brand-new Acelas & cars. :P
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby ExCon90 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:01 pm

It wouldn't be a Heritage Penn Station without heavyweight INDOMITABLE class Parlor-Buffet-Lounge cars on the Heritage Clockers.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby deandremouse » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:19 pm

Here it is. The Spirit of Pete Grosso

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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby Ridgefielder » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:30 pm

SouthernRailway wrote:I suspect that Amtrak is so dead-set on promoting its own heritage and identity that it would never do this, and freight railroads might not want to license their intellectual property to Amtrak, but:

Wouldn't it be neat if Amtrak had heritage locomotives like freight railroads do, painted in liveries of Amtrak's predecessors?

For example, the Lake Shore Limited could be led by a locomotive in NY Central paint, the Crescent could be led by a locomotive in Southern Railway paint; and an Acela Express could be in Penn Central livery?

I don't think it would ever happen, but it would be neat if it did.

Not the Penn Central livery. PRR. Or NH.

Just think how snazzy an Acela would look in Tuscan red with gold pinstripes? Or warm orange and hunter green with silver stripes a la the 1949 Merchant's Limited?
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby CHTT1 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:10 pm

Of course, Amtrak is not a direct corporate successor to these railroads. Amtrak took over the railroad's passenger service, but not their corporate identity. Amtrak's heritage units reflect its own history, not some other corporation.
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby GirlOnTheTrain » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:12 am

Doesn't the state of Connecticut own the rights to all the New Haven schemes, not just the McGinnis and variants they use now?
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Re: New Heritage unit addition

Postby Ridgefielder » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:29 pm

GirlOnTheTrain wrote:Doesn't the state of Connecticut own the rights to all the New Haven schemes, not just the McGinnis and variants they use now?

I don't think so. From what I've read the rights to the Herbert Matter "McGinnis" image are owned by the NHRHTA. As for the pre-1954 schemes-- the warm orange & hunter green on the RS's and PA's, the Brunswick green/gold on the DL109's, EP- and EF- 1-4s-- I don't know. They may well be in the public domain.
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